Monday, August 1, 2011

The forgotten "second outburst".


One of the stories everyone comes back to when reviewing Maura's case is the "breakdown" she had the Thurs. night before she disappeared, after she spoke to her sister Kathleen on the phone. But there was a second outburst, according to an article published by Seventeen several years ago. On Saturday night, Maura dropped her father off at a nearby motel and returned to the dorms where she hung out with friends and drank Skyy Blue and wine.

A couple times during the night, Maura told her friends that she wanted to drive back to the motel that night instead of waiting until the next day to return her father's car. Even her friends told her that didn't make sense.

According to Seventeen, Maura left the party at 2:30 am, telling everyone she was going to bed, but instead, got in her car headed for the motel. On the way, she would crash into a guardrail and cause several thousand dollars in damage to Fred Murray's car. They had a lot to discuss when she got there. But, why in the world was she going there in the first place?

27 comments:

  1. I don't think of this as an outburst. However, she seemed very determined to get that car back to her dad to the point of ignoring anyone's opinions on the subject.

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  2. Interesting. Some thoughts:

    1. Was she so drunk that she was simply being nonsensical? I doubt this was the case, since I'd have to think the police would have arrested her for DUI if she was that far gone.

    2. Was she drinking to get up her nerve to tell her father something?

    3. Was she expecting an early start for herself and/or her dad in the morning and somehow thought it made better sense to return the car and sleep over rather than get up early in the morning and drive over?

    4. Did she for some reason feel unsafe being alone in her dorm room?

    5. Was this a test run for what would happen in NH?

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  3. Also, I don't know about you all, but my dad would have FREAKED out if he knew I was driving in the middle of the night to return a car to him. He doesn't even like me driving alone at night now and I'm well into my 30s. What was so damn important that she had to get to him right away?

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  4. Huh. I found the seventeen article on the net. I did not realize (or if I did realize it at one time, I had forgotten it) that Maura had a second job at an art gallery. Anyone ever talked to the people she worked with there?

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  5. While her driving at night would have no doubt sparked the concern of her father, how many dad's would not have become incensed when she showed up there drunk, or even with "just" a couple of drinks in her? That she dared to go over there in such a state will be disputed by those from the old Mauramurray list who will say that she and her dad were merely going to go car shopping the next day and she was being a dutiful daughter by attempting to get there so she and her father could get rolling first thing in the morning. Still, I wonder what daughter would risk her dad catching even the merest sniff of booze, and, oh by the way, in the dead of winter at that!

    It must also be stated that this article was gone over in depth many times on the old list; that is, it is far from a new bit of information for those of us who have been following the story for sometime now.

    And yet one wonders if she had been drinking, why hadn't the cops arrested her? There either was no smell of booze, or Maura is one fat talker indeed.

    As usual nothing is ever easy about this case.

    John Avellar

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  6. Regarding the art gallery in Amherst,MA, where Maura apparently worked part-time:
    I´ve been following this case on various MM forums and on several Topix threads over the last couple of years.
    It would seem that the art gallery for some reason is something of a closely guarded "secret". The name/location of the gallery has IIRC never been publicly confirmed by either LE or Maura´s family.
    Another mystery within the mystery.

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  7. How did she call AAA if she left her cell phone at Sarah's?


    Was Maura creating a second identity???

    You can open a first citizen account with $1.00.

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  8. This is the first I heard that she left a cell phone with Sara. Can you verify this?

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  9. ... the Case Info says that Maura called him [fred] at 11.26pm making sure evidently he was home ok, after picking up her cellphone around 8.30pm which had been left in Sara A's room.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-26673-p-2.html

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  10. Responding To John Avellar's post above:

    You've raised an important question... why didn't the police officer who arrived on the scene smell the alcohol Maura and her friends were said to be drinking in the dorm that Saturday night before she left?

    This is all I can find out about it:

    http://southshorexpress.com/index.php?view=article&catid=912&id=86%3Anew-hampshire-ag-releases-info-on-maura-murray&format=pdf&option=com_content

    [quote] At 3:30 a.m., according to the Hadley police, Maura crashed her father's 2004 Toyota Corolla at the intersection of North Maple Street and North Hadley Road. Officer Mark Ruddock took the report.

    "Due to operator inattention she went through the 't' intersection and struck the snow bank and guard rail," reads Ruddock's report. [unquote]
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    Internet searches show this officer to be "an honorable man". I guess he didn't notice she had been drinking, particularly if she was crying?

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  11. This may not be a good spot to ask, but am curious to know if the Murray family is Catholic?

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  12. do you think maura could have been a passenger in the car that night? i knew a guy who would put a special mint in before driving beacause he was a heavy drinker. he swore it worked everytime. i've never seen one since. public records in ma should show if maura was driving that car on that night. if she thought she was pregnant she may have faked drinking to fit in i dont know.

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  13. why, for what reason would maura need to know if her dad made it home ok? that makes zero sense.

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  14. never mind james, i get it now, maura called the next night and therefore had no phone on saturday night. i think she could have been a passenger, what do you think. the police were all over that car. why?

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  15. AAA would have a record of the incoming call, from what phone number was used to call them with, to the one given along with the other information provided to justify a free tow job. the #'s might be different.

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  16. I checked with Hadley AAA in 2005, there was no record of any call associated with Maura's AAA number.

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  17. I could swear that on the old list it was stated that the Murray family was Roman Catholic.

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  18. well then how about Fred using a AAA card when his card was wrecked? maybe it was someone elses card and that might mean maura was not driving alone?

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  19. If Maura was in fact pregnant, then it might make sense that she worked at a small gallery directly associated with Birthright of Amherst, Inc. (in the Carriage Shops). Birthright is a prolife group, strongly supported by the late Dick Johnson, that offers a variety of pre and post-natal services, including adoption.

    Of course, highly athletic, beautiful, very smart white girls like Maura are la creme de la creme in the eyes of an adoption agency - and the attorneys who handle the legal part. For a fee.

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  20. 1:41 pm, what reason could Maura possibly have for needing to know Fred got home safely that night? He's her father. Haven't you ever said to someone traveling a fair distance, "Call me when you get there" or called to make sure they made it home ok? A relative, a close friend who'd been visiting? Have you honestly never said to even an acquaintance or co-worker, "Have a safe trip!" ? There's no mystery there. It's just simple human compassion. Although sometimes that does seem like a mystery around here.

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  21. There are six art galleries on the UMass Amherst campus: http://www.umass.edu/fac/artscouncil/programs/gallery_guide.pdf

    I think it's more likely she worked at one of those than the Birthright gallery in town.

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  22. YOU SAID
    1:41 pm, what reason could Maura possibly have for needing to know Fred got home safely that night? He's her father. Haven't you ever said to someone traveling a fair distance, "Call me when you get there" or called to make sure they made it home ok? A relative, a close friend who'd been visiting? Have you honestly never said to even an acquaintance or co-worker, "Have a safe trip!" ? There's no mystery there. It's just simple human compassion. Although sometimes that does seem like a mystery around here.

    Now here's me. I thought she was calling to see if her dad made it to th hotel alright, and if she had just driven him there, it made zero sense to me. Then I said never mind, because I saw my mistake. Thanks for responding so I could be clear.

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  23. Why is it a secret that she worked at an art gallery? Maybe some weirdo was stalking her that worked there, or she had friends or dated someone that worked there who knows something. What's the big deal with that - I've followed this case for several years and it's the first time I've heard of this. I know some people are weird, but I just can't shake the weird feeling I get when I hear one more thing is being kept secret or not talked about in this case. Think about Jaycee Dugard and Shawn Hornbeck. Their parents plastered their faces and names everywhere and never gave up hope. I just don't understand it. Yes, they were young kids, but still...just too weird for me.

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  24. I like what the first comment says at the very end. Was this a test run for what was to come?... maybe she had this planned all along? Maybe she wanted to run away and be someone completly different.
    I mean, her father seemed to have a big part in her academic career, as well as all her sporting events. Maybe he was a 'hard ass' and was mentally and emotionally abusive? It seems that a girl that diciplined had to be broken, to be so strong.
    Maybe her boyfriend, on top of her father, cheating and treating her horribly, might have caused her to fake a death or a kidnapping, so she could start completly new.
    IDK Just a thought.

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  25. I've never heard of an accident caused by "driver inattention" where the driver wasn't ticketed. And the officer didn't notice she was drunk? That whole story makes no sense.

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  26. I don't understand why she needed to go and fill out an accident report "in triplicate" with the police department for insurance purposes for her dads car if the police were called to the accident and a report was already made by the officer. Perhaps I don't understand the procedure properly. In Washington State if the police show up a report is generated and a person needs only to wait for the police to finish the report, request the copy and turn that into the insurance.

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  27. This might be nothing. According to Seventeen she leaves the party at 02:30. The Operator Information Sheet from NHPD says she crashed at that intersection 03:33. What happened in between? Maybe went to her room, then changed her mind. Or maybe 02:30 isn't the time she left. Assuming that party happened at all.

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