Thursday, September 8, 2011

UPDATED: Banker says Maura has open, active account.

I don't know what to make of this. On the surface, it seems very exciting. It suggests Maura may still be alive and laying low (everyone's secret wish, I believe). Or, perhaps there is a simple explanation.

If she did just start a new life, law enforcement are under no obligation to tell anyone they found her. She's an adult, after all. But they certainly seem to still be searching for her, too.

In light of this tidbit and this news about a secret suitor at UMass, I'll have to check in with police in the next couple days. I'll update here.

So here it is. This came in via email today. I've been able to tentatively verify the identity of the person who sent it and it seems to check out. For obvious reasons, this source will remain confidential.

This probably doesnt mean anything, I don't know. I was always terrified to post on websleuths, topix, or the MM forum because everyone who doesn't agree with the official party line gets attacked.
Anyway, I have always been kind of weirdo and looked at the Doe Network, then the Charley Project, etc. In 2007 I worked as a bank teller at a "chain" bank that has branches in NY, PA, and New England. It would get pretty boring sometimes, and I am nosy, so during lulls I would go through the database and search for people I knew, famous people, random missing people, etc. One time I searched "Maura Murray". As of the end of 2006/early 2007, there was a Maura Murray, born May 4, 1982 with an active account opened in New Hampshire. If I recall correctly, it was attached to a car loan, and the account was active in that it was collecting payments. I remember the information looked pretty familiar, so I wrote it down and checked it against the Charley Project profile when I got home. I was always afraid to say anything, maybe it is a coincidence and I'll look stupid, and at the time I didn't want to get in trouble at my job. I saw this blog and figured what the hell.
thanks and best of luck
id prefer to remain somewhat anonymous

Editor's note: It was a Citizens Bank.

UPDATE:
Some clarification from my source:

Citizen's Bank no longer does car loans, but they did then. To have one, you needed a checking account that was attached to the car loan for payment purposes. By "active", there had been payments within the last 30-60 days on the car loan, because once a person was late and sent to collections, the account would read 0000 next to the name and be flagged. So if this was in fact an account related to her, it was after she was missing. As I didn't work in the vehicle finance department, I could only see partial info.

22 comments:

  1. That is really strange! Do you think she would decide to start a new life so close to her family? Stranger things have happened--and how great would it be to find out she is indeed alive and well?

    Mr. Renner: Do you know the reason Maura left West Point? I just don't believe her family's explanation of it not being that big of a deal. I think it was a MAJOR life decision to leave and start over in nursing. I think she seemed to be under a great deal of stress, and it may have started at West Point.

    Thanks for this website & for seeking answers for Maura.

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  2. She would have to register the vehicle, have an active license, and a job to pay for the loan, so there should be more documentation on her in NH, if this is the missing Maura Murray.

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  3. Is it possible that her dad was making the payments? Maybe he had co-signed on the vehicle.

    I enjoy reading about your search for Amy and Maura.

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  4. Well if she is living in NH, under her own name, with a car in her name, paying taxes in her name, etc, how on earth could the police and PIs not find her???? Or were they so convinced she was deceased that they never bothered to look for her on this side of the dirt??

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  5. Remember the Brandi Spahr (correct me if I'm misremembering the name) case? Missing and presumed dead for 7 years. Living and working under her own name and SSN the whole time. Despite all the connectivity we have in this day and age, you can still walk away.

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  6. Answering Lara Martinez's question: Maura loved West Point and did not want to leave. She was asked to leave WP because she was found to have been stealing credit card slips from the wastebaskets of other cadets and using them for her own purchases. In other words, credit card fraud. After transferring to UMass Nursing Program, she was about to be exposed for doing the same type of credit card fraud. She was not a bad person but she had a lot of emotional problems. I believe she voluntarily ran away just prior to being confronted with her UMass crime. She felt she needed a fresh start. There has never been any evidence of foul play. Unfortunately, Maura became an Internet cult figure and many people's lives were damaged and in one case destroyed by the alleged search for Maura's nonexistent kidnapper/killer.

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    1. Hey, just out of curiosity, how do you know all of this information?

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    2. How Do U No This?

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  7. It would be fascinating to see if anyone else from the Murray family had co-signed the loan for her. Fred "went looking" for her every weekend. Maybe he was visiting.

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    1. My heart skipped three beats when I read your comment. I was thinking as I was reading this comment that I felt her Father as always known something, and this seems to fit like a glove. To me at least.

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    2. has anyone checked the school. The email with the death in the family doesnt sound right! she supposingly received a call that upset her and she called for a excort back at the dorm. maybe the person was there? they might of stage the whole thing.She had alot a loving father, agreat furture. boyfriend etc

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  8. um..yuo kinda left us hanging about the bank account. update??? did you go to cops about info>???????????????????????????

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  9. Even if she had a co-signer, wouldn't she have to provide proof of employment to obtain a loan? If I wanted to be missing on purpose (whether her dad or anyone else knew) I would not apply for a car loan.

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  10. I wonder if Maura and her dad did buy a car the sat when they were said to go looking for one? MMM that is a question worth asking .

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  11. Thanks for providing an interesting blog on the missing woman Maura Murray. I do appreciate your approach to this investigation of her disappearance as it fleshes out Maura's humanity as opposed to other sites that portray the missing as haloed saints. It is vital in the search for the missing to have all the knowledge about them--including character flaws and possible criminal involvements--to be better successful in resolving the mystery surrounding their disappearance. It is understandable that family members of the missing seek to downplay anything negative about their loved ones--however, those very things need to be looked at. Having said this and after reading most posts by this blogger/reporter and the responses, I feel the need to point out that people spread disinformation as well in order to lead searchers for the missing away from what they know is the truth. Note: I am not accusing the blogger, James Renner, of this. My personal feeling is that he just wants to get at the truth. My concern stems from some of the leads given to him including the responses in his blog. When prominent or well connnected people may be involved in someone's disappearance, they are very interested in creating false leads that oftentimes sullies the missing's character. Let me revise that last statement. Everyone guilty in the disappearance of a person has a great desire to lead searchers away from the truth regardless of prominence or connections, but it is most often the latter who are most successful at hiding their involvement. Most people care about what other think, especially those with a lot to lose. We must be careful not to believe everything people post, as it could very well be someone connected to the disappearance of the missing person.

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  12. I have a comment in regards to Citizens not having car loans...I had a car loan as late as 2010 with them and I did not have an attatched account with them. For what its worth.

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  13. Well of course the bank account is still open and active. She's officially a missing person - No matter the perspective of the investigation, bank accounts are usually left open in missing persons cases with the hopes of finding future activity on the cards. Cell phone accounts are also held open and active.

    This all goes back to why the police don't release information to the public, families, etc. The less they advertise about what they know, what confirmation of last identity tools they have (atm pics, etc), and what suspects they question - only helps in the long run. Not to mention court admissibility.

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  14. Couldn't the car loan payments been set up to be automatically taken out of her bank account by direct debit or auto-pay? As long as the bank account the payments were taken from still had enough money in it, and she never closed it, the payments would continue without her or anyone taking any action. It could be an pre-existing loan and bank account that she never closed before she took off.

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  15. Did anything ever come of this? It's very interesting that the loan would be opened in NH, without any other connection for her in NH that we know of - aside from her love for the white mountains. why would she have opened one there? and for what car? it seems her car the Saturn was probably a low upfront cost, not requiring a loan, and Fred was planning on paying for her next car with cash.

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  16. I am not accusing the blogger, James Renner, of this. My personal feeling is that he just wants to get at the truth. My concern stems from some of the leads given to him including the responses in his blog. When prominent or well connnected people may be involved in someone's disappearance, they are very interested in creating false leads that oftentimes sullies the missing's character. Let me revise that last statement. weight loss plans that really work

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