Friday, September 9, 2011

The real Maura Murray

We are all sinners. All liars. All complicated little petty people with our own agendas. Examine anyone's life and you'll start to find their demons. Maura is no different. And some of the stuff I've heard this week--which I'll be covering in the next few posts--paints a different picture of the young woman that family and friends tried to paint as a saint. But that doesn't mean she was a bad person. In fact, she was strong. She was happy. She was just complicated like the rest of us.

Some of her happier times were spent with Hossein Baghdadi, the assistant coach of the track team, in 2003. At the urging of friends, they started seeing each other in the Spring of 03 and had a hot and heavy relationship that went into the summer. Sometimes they went to movies, restaurants, or went running but they kept it on the DL, because he was a coach, even though she had stopped running and participating in track by then. Alone with "Hoss," Maura referred to Billy as an "ex." With Hoss, she never mentioned her father. "I never knew her father was even alive," he says. They talked about taking a vacation to the White Mountains so she could hike and he could go fly fishing.

Maura drove to Amherst to visit Hoss that summer and stayed with him for a bit. But shortly thereafter, "She fell off the face of the earth." She stopped returning his phone calls, stopped answering his emails. When they returned to UMass in the Fall of 03, Maura explained that she'd gotten back with Billy.

"He seemed very chauvinistic," says Hoss. "He wanted her to be in certain places at certain times. He was checking up on her. I think he was demanding with her, but that's just the impression I got." He also got the impression from Maura that Billy could be physical. She felt she couldn't really get away from him.

After Maura went missing, detectives visited Hoss and he shared what he knew with them. One of the things he shared was a conversation he says he had with Maura when they were alone one day. "She talked about running away. She said, 'I wish I could disappear.' When I heard she was missing, I though, 'holy crap! Maybe she did it.'"

Later, he learned she'd been sleeping with other members of the track team. "She was very promiscuous, it turns out."

But that doesn't change the image he has in his mind of the bubbly girl he fell for. "She was super energetic. Always seemed happy. But she was sad, too. Underneath."

24 comments:

  1. Great interview! This reveals so much information about her prior life, information than ever before. Most everything about her personal life has been concealed from anyone writing on forums and discussion blogs. Most would have us believe her only relationship was with Billy prior to her running away from Amherst. Looks like there is a witness to her promiscuity, for whatever the implications may mean from that statement by Hoss. Keep up the great work, James!

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    1. His wife is similar to Maura. Except one picture where her nose might too crooked or something. she also doesn't have a Facebook. I had to dig hard to find her name. Its just weird that's all

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  2. what phone number was Hoss calling when he called Maura? Billy was said to have access to her cell records because he bought and paid for her cell phone plan. Did Maura have another phone to contact her other admireers in order to not get caught?

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  3. @2:29 She had a landline phone in her dorm room. I went to another college around that time and the bill was really cheap like $5-10 a month. She would have paid that bill herself or it might have been included in the tuition.

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  4. I have thought for awhile that Maura discovered she was pregnant shortly before she disappeared. There were searches on her computer for the effects of excessive alcohol on a fetus. I looked it up myself, and saw that excessive use of alcohol could cause a miscarriage. I believe that Maura was stressed about her situation and trying to induce a miscarriage through excessive drinking. This would explain her erratic behavior before she left, and the road trip as well. I think after she crashed her dad's car, she realized she needed some time away to drink in safety and privacy in order to induce a "death in the family". This theory fits all the puzzle pieces into place before the Haverhill accident. After the accident, I come up with a blank. Is it that easy for a young, attractive woman alone out there to get murdered? Probably, yes. It seems to happen often.

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    1. I've never thought that could be a possibility, but that really does fit all of the puzzle pieces together before she disappeared. Maybe her friends knew that she was pregnant and trying to drink enough to induce a miscarriage (it is odd how they won't talk about what she was doing at the party before she crashed her father's car) and they don't want to put Maura in a bad light so they are keeping their mouths shut. I know one thing for sure: she definitely wasn't the angel everyone said she was on Disappeared.

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    2. I've never thought about this theory. Very interesting indeed!

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    3. Come on.. please. You can't be serious? How much alcohol do you think you'd have to consume to MAYBE miscarry?
      Wouldn't it be easier to get an abortion?

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    4. There's a late term abortion clinic in Burlington VT.

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  5. I've never seen the comment @ AnonymousOct 16, 2011 06:07 PM, but this is one of the theories I've had. I think she was at the point where putting herself in danger was more appealing than getting herself in trouble. I also think her being promiscuous and sad and Billy being controlling speaks to her state of mind as wanting to get away...

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  6. If she ran away with another person... Who? Shouldn't there be someone also missing who, if she had enough of a relationship with him to want to run away with him, other people would know about (her friends, family, ect)...

    This is the one thing that keeps me from believing she ran away with someone else.

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  7. Wow, there is so much more to the story! This is one of the most interesting cases ever. I have been fascinated by it since I first heard about it. Maura and also Brianna Maitland from Vermont, are two very interesting cases. I hate to say but just my 3 cents worth; I feel she is no longer alive but that is just my opinion. I don't know her or her family from Adam, so don't take my word for it too seriously.

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  8. What a great interview James. I feel this guy is very credible. He sounds very believable, and since he was interviewed years after her disappearance he does not sound like he has an axe to grind with her. Fascinating that he says "she talked about running away. She said, 'I wish I could disappear.' I have said before, that I believe Maura was excellent at hiding her inner emotions, and was quite good at outwardly presenting herself as though everything was fine. This is a rare but telling crack in Maura's outside amour. We clearly see here a rare glimpse to her inner emotions, where she lets slip one of her deepest thoughts, "she wishes she could disappear", not too many people say that. Also, its fascinating that her innocent presentation is quite shattered as he later learns that she was quite promiscuous.

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  9. Hoss states "She was super energetic. Always seemed happy. But she was sad, too. Underneath." Absolutely compelling comment by Hoss, and confirms what many believe about Maura. Buried deep inside, she was very unhappy.

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  10. This is still irrelevant as far as what ultimately happened to Maura. It creates a reason to take off quietly like she did, but nothing else. It still has all the hallmarks of an abduction. A nursing student could also be researching the effects of alcohol on a fetus because she is a nursing student. Doesn't mean she was pregnant.

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    1. Since the reasons she ran off may or may not be connected to her ultimate disappearance, I'd say it was entirely relevant. We don't know yet if it was an abduction.

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  11. If Maura indeed stated that " I wish I could disappear" than indeed this is very related to her disappearance. If you really want to live off the grid, in this area you can for a while you can. There are no clear evidence of any abduction that I have heard off so far. No sign of struggle and no body or bones were ever found.Even if animals carry away the body, or scatter it bones are eventually found.
    Especially if she had gotten the 4000$ from Fred to "straighten" things out with it.
    It also sheds a light on why Maura stayed with Billy. People who know anything about dysfunctional relationships know that it is difficult and takes many years to learn to have the courage to walk away from those relationships. Especially if you did grow up with controlling emotionally abusive parents -which Fred certainly seems to be. Another characteristics of control freaks is that they never gain any insight into their own actions and see them anything but helpful.

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  13. Was anything this coach said every verified by another source? Are we to believe that Billy was abusive or that she was promiscuous just because he says so? Something about him gives me a creepy vibe.

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  14. This case has fascinated me since I first heart about it...almost 10 years to the day.
    This side is a treasure trove of detailed information!

    Well, the "Hoss" case is interesting since it casts a new light on Maura herself. I am pretty sure the fact that he could talk about her in the public means that the police extensively scrutinized him and his info and found no significant leads...

    I heart Fred once saying (referring to the car crash prior to her disappearance):
    "If this is the only trouble the kid ever caused me then I am lucky man"

    That actually somehow sounds exactly the opposite that she wasn't causing trouble the first time... I remember reading somewhere here that she had been forced to leave WP due to credit card fraud?! Has this been verified? Or is this just another rumor?

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  15. I drove a similar route when I left College on 'an adventure', (aka burnout). I was in a late 60's VW Bug driving in winter months. I didn't drink while I was driving but I would have like to have been. All of it could have happened to me. When we're young we feel invincible. I believe a "dirtbag" took her. Sad story.

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  16. It is very easy to disappear, even after an accident. I don't think it is very likely that any Joe blow could catch a 21 year old track athlete on foot. Just not likely. I ran track in college, and I couldn't... Especially with nobody seeing or hearing anything? She ran away, in my opinion. People change, develop and drop habits and new loves and lives like crazy. Sounds to me like if she did die, that foul play wasn't involved in her death or suicide. It would be easy to see how she might want people (her family) to think she ran away rather than committed suicide. I read where she listened for 5 minutes to a prerecorded phone service about travel plans??? What 21 year old does that in 2004? None that I know of, I have no idea what would even be the value of such a thing. I think she ran away... Even if not for very long.

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  17. Does anyone know where Hoss lived at the time that Maura was seeing him / crashed her dad's car?

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  18. Is there anyway to find out what time he arrived back on campus from the track meet at Rhode Island?

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