Friday, November 4, 2011

Where Fred lived.


Fred Murray is still listed in the phone book as living at 22 Walker St. in Weymouth, Mass, but he hasn't lived there in some years. According to family, he lives on the Cape now, in Falmouth, though attempts to find him have not panned out (though I have left messages on his cell phone, asking for comment).

The house on Walker is vacant, now, and, apparently condemned. But his cousins still live across the street and his neighbor, Becky, says she remembers Maura visiting him there shortly before her disappearance. Records indicate the Murray family owes back taxes on the property.

For a time, Fred did live here while Maura and his other children lived with their mother, Laurie, at the house in Hanson. Fred's brother, Danny, and his sister, Rita, also lived at this house on occasion. I mention the house for a couple reasons.

Whoever lived there has issues. Serious psychological issues. I was able to get a good look inside through the many windows and what you can see is like an episode of Hoarders. Except, the only thing they are hoarding is garbage. There are piles of frozen dinners and beer boxes literally five feet high. In the kitchen, there is a pile of dog food cans stretching almost to the ceiling. This isn't a place to bring your kid.

Also, in the back I found some adult magazines among strewn junk and old mail addressed to Fred. Stuck in the pages of the magazine were xeroxed copies of girls from old high school yearbooks (maybe from the 50's/60's?). Specifically photos of Barb and Patricia Curran. I haven't been able to locate these women to figure out an explanation for this. Anyone know who these women are?

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  1. Ummmmm. Just a word. I don't know Fred, don't really care about Fred, except how he relates to Maura. I can tell you it is not uncommon for vacant houses to be used by kids/drifters/homeless/druggies. I don't know the neighborhood well enough to guess who it might be. But bottom line is, it doesn't necessarily follow, in a vacant house, that it is Fred's stuff.


    Bill

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  2. James,

    Good stuff. Thanks for the post. I love this blog.

    I have been following this case for over 2 years and have read/seen almost everything available to the general public. I have had many theories concerning this subject.

    Have you looked into the question of impropriety? I know this is a taboo subject, but I feel this could be an "elephant in the room." The two were awfully close, and she did on at least one occasion apparently try to visit him in the middle of the night.

    I like to try to read people's diction, as I feel word choices can reveal someone's inner self in a Freudian kind of way. I saw a video clip once of him pleading for her to come home so they could "bang it out like usual [sic]." He presumably meant to solve the issue, but I found the word choice interesting.

    I am not saying I know this happened--I am saying there may be a remote possibility.

    One more think: in the man's defense, are you sure someone hasn't been squatting at that house? It could have been turned into a drug house or some untidy relative or friend might have been using the place. Can you find out the last time of known occupancy by him?

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    1. I also found that word of choice"bang it out" interesting, but I attributed it to the fact the English is my second language.

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    2. I suspect he meant to say 'Hammer it out' and just had a senior moment.

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  3. What do you mean by "for a time" Fred lived there? Was it years? When did he leave? Was it 5 years ago? Was it 2 years ago? I'm being a devil's advocate here. He did spend most of his weekends in NH looking for Maura after she vanished and I believe he worked full time too.

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  4. A simple internet search seemed to have revealed the location of Patricia's address and phone number who has a relation with a person named Barbra.

    Can't be certain but it says the two are related. The question is what should be done with this information?

    Bill

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  5. I'll take it. Becarriedaway@hotmail.com

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  6. That's a very common Boston thing to say-"Bang it out"..."Bang out of work"..."Bang a left"...Get your mind out of the gutter-this is an older man were talking about here-he doesn't have the same jargon as someone in their twenties.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_Boston_slang

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  7. Excuse my lack of knowledge of Bostonian slang. However, the question is still relevant. What normal girl goes to a party, allegedly has a few drinks, then goes to see dear old dad in the middle of the night? A dad with whom she is virtually joined at the hip.

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  8. Gah?.. Forget the last post... Danny for Daniel. But anyways, Daniel and Fred own it.

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  9. This is a despicable post, full of innuendo and short on facts. You should be ashamed but you won't be, and you would never post this comment either. It's clear to me at least that all you care about selling your book.

    You have no idea wat the real status of that house is; it could be abandoned, in foreclosure. It could have been rented out to people who trashed it. But you want us to conclude that the house suggests something about Fred that conmects to his daughter's disappearance. Did you call the phone number? Is it still in service? My guess is NO, and NO.

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  10. The house is in a decent neighborhood. And, according to the neighbors, Fred, Danny, and Rita were the last ones to live there. They would know if some drifter was living out of the house.

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  11. Was this house past down to Fred by his parents?

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    1. Apparently Fred is a dangerous man someone once said.

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  12. Hello, I think I have to disagree with the post at 9:57 pm. The condition of the house as described first hand by Mr. Renner is not innuendo, which means allusive, oblique, vague or only suggestive. His observation was that the house is full of piles of trash (as paraphrased by me). That is not innuendo. You might call him a liar if you had a basis for it, but it is not innuendo. You might also say it is unfairly disparaging (which innuendo often is, and probably what you meant by that word) and that is a matter of opinion. But I would respectfully disagree with you. In the context of this case, it - combined with other facts that we do know - is highly suggestive that strange matters in Maura's personal life may have a bearing on what happened to her. In that context, I would respect the assertion that it might be somewhat voyeuristic for Mr. Renner to be doing this at all and the house peering is an example of that and such voyeurism, yes, is known to sell books and movies. But I think a consideration of Mr. Renner's record and the work he has done suggests that his interest in this case is a deep and sincere one. As such, I feel the cant and tone of your post is a bit too strong. In my opinion, in fact, every human is an expression of the spirit and each deserves to live and die in his or her own truth. It appears that Maura, one way or another, was deprived this opportunity and anyone advocating compassionately for the revelation of the truth of her life is doing good, in my view. My sense is that while Mr. Renner might want to sell books, he wants to write them because he cares about their subject matters, in the same manner that a baker might love baking but need to sell cakes to make a living. Regards, John Green.

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  13. Damn, what the hell is going on here? Is this true? If so I'm disturbed by this finding, particularly the part about the pics of high school girls in the pages of a porno???! Wtf?? That's like pretty f'd up if u think about it. That's not something that just happened on accident. That's beyond weird..
    & what's up with all the garbage in the kitchen? Why no pictures of that? Did u take pix inside the house?

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  14. While I think your conclusion about what was found in this house is completely disgusting and wrong, I have come across some information tied to this house and some of the 'evidence' left in Maura's car. With my (somewhat) limited resources, I can't make anything too much of it as it may or may not be a definitive lead, but I think it is something to look into. Basically all it's an email address, at least a 13 year-old one, which I have matched to a name and a Facebook profile. I will do a few more days of investigating and if I think it's anything useful I will send you the info.

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  15. How do you know the porn, photos, and trash belong to Fred? If the house has been abandoned for some time, there could have been squatters living in it. Or just people who used it as a party place, or a place to crash for a few days. There is an abandoned house next to me, and it is amazing, the stuff piled up in there, even though no one has lived in it for years.

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