Tuesday, February 14, 2012

ATM: Open Question **UPDATE**

Can anyone find a quote from police or prosecutors stating that Maura Murray was seen on the video at the ATM and that she was alone? Direct quote. I'm attempting to back track this detail to a primary source.

**UPDATE**

You guys are great. Thank you.

Scarinza, himself, states that she was seen in still photographs captured by the atm and that she was alone. So, no dice on the theory growing on these boards that she wasn't seen between Sat. and her disappearance.

18 comments:

  1. it was LT. John Scarinza who made the statement. Listen to what he says on the Dissapeared Episode.

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  2. Scarinza says it here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78TfLz9KBeg

    6:40 in.

    Brian

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  3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78TfLz9KBeg&feature=related

    start at 6:40, you will hear scarinza say it.

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    1. Maura Murray, 21, a nursing student at UMass, goes missing after crashing her 1996 black Saturn on Route 112 in Haverhill, N.H. Witnesses said after the crash she asked them to call a wrecker but not the police. When police arrived on scene 10 minutes later, she was gone.

      Read more: http://www.wmur.com/video/30402111/detail.html#ixzz1mPDc2OqY

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    2. What witnesses were asked ("she asked them") to call a wrecker? The only person we have ever heard that she spoke to was the Bus Driver, and I have never read anywhere that he stated she asked him to call a wrecker.

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  4. I find it odd that people assume she was alone based on the fact that was alone in the ATM photos. How many of us accompany our friends to the ATM? As a common courtesy, I'd at least stand off to the side or perhaps browse around the store to give my friend privacy.

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    1. Agreed. I have never understood all the assumptions in this case. I don't think I have ever had someone come with me to the ATM. There is not written ATM "etiquitte," but pretty much no one goes with someone to the ATM close enough to be within camera view. Stuff sometimes comes up on the screen about account balances and whatnot, thus standing right next to someone at the ATM would be VERY unusual to me. Having said that, Maura strikes me as being a bit of a loner, and she was alone at the liquor store, so I am going to keep believing the theory that she was alone all that day. I still think she very likely was meeting someone, however.

      But really, LE, pretty much EVERYONE is alone at an ATM, even if they are out with a huge group of people at the time. Being recorded "alone" at an ATM is pretty much useless information.

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    2. Whenever I hear cases where being at the ATM alone or not is when the people are in a vehicle. But, I remember in my younger (college) days when I didn't think much about giving my friends privacy at the ATM, especially my closest friends.

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  5. Who confirmed her identity?Doesnt her sister resemble her?

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  6. This -in contrast to recent mayhem and plantings of red herrings - is progress Kudos for jumping on this.

    It would be really sweet if the time were known, as that would make slack time estimates for her driver more precise

    ~ John G.

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  7. I've been following this case since it aired on Disappeared, and through tv and internet media, I have not once seen where Maura withdrew the money from the ATM that day. I found that to be very strange. My first instinct was that she had died from the elements, but the more I think about it, she might possibly have had a specific location that she was heading, possibly planned months prior to her missing. I just look back to my college days (I was her age 13 years ago) and try to piece a scenario together I guess, being a more independent mind per se. I don't think she should be underestimated--I was in the Army (joined later than most) a few years ago and I met 17 and 18 year olds there who were SO "squared away" I couldn't compete. And with her experience at West Point, I think anything is possible. I just hope she's alive. Another thing I'd like to bring up if she did plan a disappearance is that who would have thought media would still be all over this story today, in 2012? I mean myspace and social media was in early existence, and the main communication via Internet was e-mail. I have a friend from the Concord, NH area and she just vaguely remembers hearing about this (we chatted about it earlier this week) Guess I'm just hoping she's alive and well today. I did have one question--I heard that she was asked to leave West Point due to credit card fraud? And possible credit card fraud at UMass? Does anyone know the details of that? Just wondering if someone she knew was responsible for the crime and she was covering for them? It doesn't sound like that would be a character trait in her daily life--Kristy

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    1. Kristy,

      Look back through old posts here by Renner for more info on that.

      John G.

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    2. Thanks John G. I'm new to this particular blog, so I have a lot of backlog work to do:)

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  8. But police don't always tell the whole story. There could be someone out there who knows better, and the police want to keep it that way. It could be a reason to NOT show the video of the last sighting of MM, especially to innocent family, to make a positive ID. And who cares if she stood there alone. Smart or sly people will not put themselves in line for a freethrow.

    LMR

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  9. Kristy,

    In order to have a pizza delivered to dorm room x and such, where it is known that one MM resides, I think she'd be smart to sign her own name and claim she called in the wrong number. That it had been written down, and she made an honest mistake.

    If she had been through this at West Point, and continued to do it (there could be more unknown/missed cases where the cardholder didn't notice), that well, she'd get smarter about it.

    Call me silly but surely she knew she would be caught at some point.

    So James, do you think you can find out what name she signed? Maybe a best friends name, her own, or exactly the name on the card. I wonder if police would tell you?

    LMR

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    1. As far as I can remember, Maura supposedly told LE that she'd got the card number from a receipt she found in a wastebasket. If that was true, she never had the card itself, and therefore probably didn't know the name of the cardholder.

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  10. anyone catch the name inside the "bunny in the box" video that was deleted? R.F something

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    1. I posted it under Mr 1974 post...waiting for it to be approve.

      R. F. Shannon
      9710 TSU DET 2
      ARMY CHEM CENTER MD

      GBN
      Maine

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