Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Mr. 1974

The Creep continues to post cryptic videos on YouTube, even showing his face to the camera. Links to his old blogs suggest he is a man who has spent a lot of time homeless, sometimes living in his van, though he says he's held a job as a Walmart greeter.

In a recent post, he refers to himself as "Mr. 1974." Strange. What happened in 1974 that is so important to this man?

Part of the purpose of this blog is to generate information. I like to pose questions sometimes because I know my own imagination limits how I think about problems. Bouncing ideas off you guys sometimes gets us closer to the truth...or at least someplace new.

It was a reader named Matt who pointed me to the unsolved mystery of John William McGrath, one of New Hampshire's most wanted criminals.

In 1962, 17-year-old John William McGrath murdered his entire family in Newport, NH. He took the rifle his uncle had reclaimed from a dead Japanese soldier in WWII and shot his two younger brothers, who he was babysitting at the time. Then he sat and waited for his parents to return home. When they did, he shot them too.

From the Concord Monitor:
But the same McGrath had been seeing a doctor at the state hospital in Concord for two years as an outpatient for reasons not explained in the news accounts. And in writings found after the murders, the police discovered repeated references to death, an executioner and darkness. "Perhaps death is the answer to the question of existence," read one of McGrath's passages that Hunter has collected in his files.
After the murders, he drove 45 minutes to Concord and turned himself in at the mental hospital. He was found insane and committed to a psych hospital.

At the hospital, he proved to be a bit of an academic. He wrote book reviews. He painted murals of New Hampshire covered bridges on the walls in the hospital. He was given permission to take computer classes at NH Technical Institute. When he started stealing drugs, though, he was sent to prison. But in 1972, he returned to the mental hospital.

In 1974, he simply walked away from the hospital grounds and was never seen again. He would be 67 years old, now.

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32 comments:

  1. What does this have to do with anything.

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    1. Did you actually read what he wrote or did you just stare at the picture? 'Cause he explained it pretty well.

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  2. This is sensationalist and represents fishing too wide a sea with too a wide net. Could be where the youtube guy came up with his name ... maybe he just loves NH crime. My 1974, Mr 112dirtbag. But it is irrelevant and he is irrelevant. We know who he is, the police do and Fred does. The police have cause to detain him if they choose based on these videos alone. He has clearly been definitively ruled out by the suspect by the police. At some point, feeding the obsession of a mentally ill person who is irrelevant becomes itself unconscionable. You have no idea the degree to which you are further encouraging his psychological spin out. Not much more than a year ago, this man wrote beautifully of his plight on his blog. Today, he is doing this. It is not correct morally to be feeding him fuel for his ill fires on a wild speculative and sensationalist hope that his strange and attention rousing videos are actually meaningful.

    I can think of many better ways to spend the effort to locate Maura and suggested at least one to you directly James that you said was "fishing." This post is fishing to a degree well beyond that. But it had a more direct and obvious connection to Maura and her case than does this youtube dude. I wonder if, frankly, the sensational aspects of youtube dude are attractive to you in terms of arousing interest in your project?

    You may also be putting this man's life in danger although he has done a good job of that himself. But he is sick. You are sane.

    Another more sound use of the time might be to call someone at LE and simply ask them: can you tell me whether he has been ruled out? He is suggesting that he is involved or knows something. It would help me help you to know if he is not a valid subject for my investigation-supplement blog to be publicly dwelling up. Or even contact him and tell him, nothing will be posted on my site about you unless you contact me and stop being so cryptic and suggestive.

    I just think this is a sick and lonely man whose life is spinning even further out of control over his obsession with Maura. There are lots and lots of reasons to think he is irrelevant to Maura's case. His sensational antics, therefore, should not dilute the progress you are making and I think it is time for you to simply bar the topic from here. IF someone has a tip that brings you back to him, fine. But this is all just sensationalism borrowed from a sick man, potentially at expense to his deteriorating mental health and maybe his life - if say a follower of his blog goes to his Walmart and harms him. It is very easy to figure out from his blog where he works.

    I mean no disrespect, I could not support what you are doing more, but also born of that respect is willingness to speak candidly. I think this is a morally questionable act and adds value in sensationalism perpetuated not substantive progress.

    Respectfully,

    John Green

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    1. You have a good point and we get it....You're smart. It's okay to speak in lamen's terms. Also, It's human nature to wonder "what if" and expand your imagination. This guy, Alden Olsen does know something. The question is, how does he know so much?

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  3. Philippe Petit’s Tightrope Between World Trade Center Towers 1974

    I thought this guy could be the reference to Mr. 1974, walking a tightrope, in danger of falling, etc.

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  4. oh sh** have you sent this to the cops? creepy. what if its him then he needs to be more investigated.

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  5. ..and yet another vid posted 21min ago by Mr112Dirtbag. Bunnies in a box. Detailing a stamp inside a cedar? box:

    R. F. Shannon
    9710 T.S.U. Det. 2
    Army Chemical Center, Md.

    Google is less than helpful...as it brings articles about anti aircraft weapons, chemical warfare, and a R.F. Shannon assigned to Austria....

    GBN
    Maine

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    1. Beagles IP often comes up as silver springs MD

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  6. ...and he pulled the video down.

    the Camera zoomed into reveal the stamp with the text I posted above. In the right hand side of the box was a stuffed bunny...

    GBN
    Maine

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  7. though he says he's held a job as a Walmart greeter.

    That'll have me thinking each time I walk into walmart now...

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  9. This guy does resemble the Poster of the videos and he lived in Newport NH and that is smack in the middle of the Conneticut river killings.several girls from the next town over (Claremont) were found Murdered. One from Newport was murdered and her body was found in Derby Vt. Feb 12 a female skull was found in Derby Vermont.
    I would have LE do a face analysis on MR creepy and John William McGrath.

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    1. The nose and mouth do not match. Also, McGrath looks like he had lighter skin and was a red head. He looks Irish compared to Mr112dirtbag. He would be bald or gray today, but I don't see a resemblance.

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    2. I disagree that the nose and mouth do not match. if you take both pictures and put them in a program like photo shop you can see the similarities. look at the ears. the lines of the ears are the same. Dirtbag has a distinct forhead that if you enhance the McGrath photo he has the same thing. Dirtbag also has a facial line under his lip that again is similar in the McGrath photo. The Nose obviously has been broken at least once in this mans life but in both pics these men have one nostril smaller than the other. i am not saying that they are one in the same but there are a lot of similarities when considering aging.

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    3. I also thought of an untreated broken nose. And if you were a fugitive and/or acquired the broken nose in a less than legal way, you wouldn't be as likely to seek treatment. Also if you look at the age progression on the NH website. Add ten years to that and maybe some heavy drinking and a less that average lifestyle in terms of health and you get pretty close. If they're not the same person, it would be easy to confuse the two.

      http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/wantedpersons/wanted_mcgrath.html

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    4. The NH website says he is 5'11". I'd estimate the creep is about the same height. If you look at the video of the creep playing the keyboard (or the still from the 'ups the ante' post), he takes up around 9 cinderblocks (8" high), putting him at about 6'. Also note the door behind him, that's 6'8" (I believe) by code. Shelving unit to his right is probably 48", also a std size.

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    5. I also believe that John William McGrath could be the CVK. The timeline is very close.

      Not saying He is beagle at all, just to clarify. But I also wouldn't throw that theory out the widow quite yet.

      John

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  10. just went back through some of the older blog entries..your interview with the the PI from September was quite chilling. If he is to be believed, then he thinks all signs of foul play point to one person. Someone Butch was afraid of, and is well to do (maybe) in the community. Have you followed up on this, and is their signs of it being foul play pointing on one person? I just wonder how much he knows and if it's true that this case is 70% solved by LE. His personal dislike of Butch was disheartning, giving he is the last known person to talk to Maura. Also, a witness to the crash across the street claimed they saw a red light coming from the car, which they thought was a cigarette. Some have debunked has a cellular phone light. Did her model of phone have a red light? Just curious. Keep up the good work, Mr. Renner.

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    1. Some phones have lighted key pads. Often a amber or red color.

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    2. "Someone Butch was afraid"... like a policeman or?

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  11. I think some people are taking this too literally. No one should think Beagle is actually Mr1974 AKA John William McGrath. It didn't take a lot of research for me to draw the conclusion that Beagle is not McGrath, however I cannot rule out that he is not role-playing this character in his video. I was more speculating that it was a forum poster or he was poking fun at the detective that interviewed him back in May of 2009.

    For the red light being a cell phone, I know Maura may not have been a smoker but it's not all that uncommon for college-age people to smoke when they drink. I believe some of the alcohol was consumed, I can imagine she was upset if the crash was accidental, at that point I could imagine she may have lit a cig, I mean why not at that point? Yes, I know she ran track, but that's an odd age, and back in 2004 smoking seemed a bit more in style with younger people than it is now, I'm not thinking it's a big detail but I am thinking she may have indeed been smoking a cigarette.

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    1. A couple of cigarettes would help mask the smell of alcohol. Also Maura's cell phone had a color screen so if it was on it would show up as bluish not orange.

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  12. For whatever it's worth, I think I may have figured out the numerical code that accompanies some of Dirtbag's videos. Four numbers are featured: 1 (top left), 5 (top right), 27 (bottom left), and 8 (bottom right). 27 - 8 = 19. 8 - 1 = 7. 5 - 1 = 4. Hence: 19/7/4. Crunch the numbers differently and another year appears, although this is more of a stretch. 27 - (8 - 1) = 20. 5 - 1 = 4. Hence: 20/04 (2004 being the year of Maura's disappearance).

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    1. Now this sounds like Mr. 1974 himself. He, too, was referring to numerical codes in response to my questioning on Topix.

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  13. I haven't checked this blog for a month or two so I don't know who "the creep" is. My initial thought when I looked at the above photo was he looks a lot like the police sketch of the zodiac.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zodiac_blog_2100x147.jpg

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    1. Holy crap! This is getting freaky now. 1974 might be the Zodiac, but Beagle is not either one of these people.

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    2. He can't be the zodiac based on the timeline. This guy was in the hospital while murders were being committed by the Zodiac

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  14. If you type in the URL line, forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?
    threadid=3467200 there is a long blog under What Happened to Maura Murray? This blog integrates the long hunt for Maura and the recent
    integration of Beagle, John William McGrath etc. If you scroll down about three-quarters of the page, you will see a picture of a guy named
    Iron Clad Lou, February 12, 2008. Starting here, the blog goes into
    trying to identify if Beagle, 112dirtbag, and McGrath look alike. It goes on for a while. I think that Iron Clad Lou looks amazingly like
    John William McGrath. Other opinions would be welcome.

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  15. I have been reading threads at somethingawful.com for years. Iron Clad Lou is one of our creepiest posters. About six years ago, he posted a blog about Maura Murray. I thought it was creepy at the time, but now I think he might now something. Please investigate this.

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    1. Do you know where to find the blog entries that Iron Clad Lou
      posted about Maura six years ago?

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  16. I thought you might find this interesting. Olson (as Beagle) quoted you, James Renner, in response to my question about Mr. 1974.

    http://notwithoutperil.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/alden-olson/comment-page-1/#comment-112.

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  17. If you guys would compare pictures of both "Alden Olsen" and John William McGrath, you will notice that they are clearly the same person. Also "Alden Olson" in the YouTube videos makes it obvious that he knows where Maura Murray's body is hidden. Which makes him look guilty and the police look lazy. I know he did it. IT IS SO OBVIOUS!

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