Wednesday, February 15, 2012

What we've uncovered so far.

A lot of new visitors have found this blog recently. For those playing catch-up, here's some links to the biggest pieces of the puzzle we've uncovered so far:



Maura was mad that Billy Rausch was seeing other people.




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  1. Thanks for bringing us up to date. This is one of those cases that has haunted me for years, and before coming across your blog I had no idea about any of these clues you've uncovered. The way Maura disappeared never made sense to me - why would someone with such a wonderful life be so upset and run off with a car full of alcohol without telling anyone? It starts to make some sense when you have more of the story than what is commonly presented on shows like Disappeared.

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  2. The Donut Shop and the Motel (Town and country) are located in Bossier Louisiana. If you google Bossier Donut shop the Pic comes up and Links to The Blog we have all scene (passing through town)

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    1. Beagle - under the name of storagehead - has posted comments about Bossier, LA being Sin city on youtube. Not sure why. Read the strange comments he posted under his "storagehead" moniker on these videos:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b95nPrW0MNU

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqzXiCmS1L4

      What this all means to me? Insanity and completely irrelevant to MM's disappearance; it's all just conspiracy theory drivel.

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  3. Whatever happened to the liquor bottles she had purchased? All that was mentioned was that box of Franzia.

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    1. Actually, there were a lot of references to the liquor, but you'd have to do a lot of digging, at this point, to find them all. What they amount to, as far as I can see, is this: The liquor was in the car after the crash. The liquor wasn't in the car after the crash. Some of it was and some of it wasn't. In addition to the liquor purchases on the receipt, other liquor was also found in the car. The Kahlua was in the car. The Kahlua wasn't in the car . . . in other words, nobody knows, and if the Saturn was left unlocked and unattended by law enforcement for even one minute at the tow garage, the chain of evidence was broken, so whatever was found after that, or not found, the information is meaningless, since any good ole' boy could have grabbed it. Just another load of rumors, substantiated by nothing.

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  4. Thanks for the update! I'm wondering if they ever checked health insurance records for claims after the accident? (if she had to see a doctor for possibly pregnancy, etc) Although she wouldnt' have wanted a paper trail if she did disappear...Also, when I was in college, they made male visitors sign in at the front desk then sign out. Any record of male visitors to Maura's room in the month or so prior to her disappearance and have they been questioned? Kristy

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  5. I will say that when viewed together, this information makes me consider the case differently. I've always theorized that Maura was the victim of an opportunistic predator, who may have followed her from the gas station after seeing a distressed, pretty, possibly drunk girl traveling by herself.

    There were more problems in her life than I initially thought. I am open to the possibility that she really did plan to start a new life. However, what girl at that age makes a decision and sticks with it. I had a few friends in college who ran off for a day or two just to see who was concerned enough to go looking for them, as a ploy to feel needed and get attention.

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    1. Exactly!! That's the ONLY thing that makes me unsure that she ran off, the fact that she was only 21 and if she did run off, it HAD to be planned very carefully, and i'm sure she wasn't alone when/if she disappeared. I NEED this case to be solved soon.....

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  6. The one thing I do not think is discussed is WHY she did what she did. If she was murdered, we will probably never know why she drove to New Hampshire. If she was not murdered I came up with another theory called the man and the ocean, which if you understand it, you will have already figured out.

    Always remember this: Most people, even most animals will kill out of a single emotional response: fear. Maybe she got tired of worrying all the time. I do not know what she was thinking, but I think the point is this:

    It is hard to murder someone, even yourself.

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    1. And even harder to dispose of your own body, for those who still assume it was suicide.

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  7. Anon 07:04 we don't know why she did what she did. I believe James was just trying to point out facts, and not opinions or speculations.


    I believe it's easier to form an opinion and conclusion when you have solid facts, and not myths, and not bias opinions, and not speculations.

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  8. I hope we can dismiss the posts and videos by Beagle and begin to focus again on the information that Mr. Renner has began uncovering recently. I am still intrigued by the phone call Mr. Renner made to the Curves and the strange incident about the phone handling when the name Maura Murray was mentioned. I think as soon as this revelation was made, ironically, we were all side-tracked. Coincidence???
    Anon WV

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    1. @Anon WV, can you please link the "phone call Mr. Renner made to Curves..." thread?

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    2. http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2012/02/bizarre-theory-of-day-maura-manages.html

      **This has been one of the most interesting threads I've uncovered SO FAR on this blog.
      Anon WV

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  9. I still cannot get over Fred not talking for two years. I would think that a father, even if he thought his daughter was in trouble with the law, or even if he was a suspect, would want to talk to detectives! A father would take the chance of being charged with a crime, have his name ruined, etc, if it meant it would bring his daughter home to him.

    There is something REALLY MAJOR about this case that we are not being told. For the life of me I cannot figure out what it is though.

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    1. I think Fred's a bit of a control freak. And remember, he was angry with LE almost from the beginning, wondering why it took them some 20 hours to notify him, believing they weren't taking Maura's disappearance seriously and that they were searching in the wrong places.

      Fear is the emotion that underlies anger. Fred was undoubtedly very frightened about the fate of his daughter, but he's not a man who expresses fear easily, I think. He's more likely to bluster and rage and, to overcome his feelings of helplessness, to try to control the cops and the investigation.

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    2. Anon at 07:47, I agree word-for-word with everything you just said. That was my opinion from the very beginning. A man frightened for his daughter lashing out at the police and everyone else as a coping mechanism more than anything else.

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  10. One minor thought: On the day of her disappearance, Maura e-mailed her professors and work supervisors to inform them of a death in the family (which was untrue) and to say that she would be gone for several days. I was thinking -- if she intended to permanently disappear of her own free will, why would she bother notifying anyone that she would be absent from classes? I mean, if you're planning to vanish without a trace in a matter of hours, what would compel you to contact your professors and make up a white lie?

    -TJ

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    1. Give herself a headstart maybe? Still thinking the accident on 112 was not intended.

      I'm not doubting she planned to have an accident elsewhere, or ditch the car (if you believe the runaway theory) but I don't think she planned to do it so close to "home".

      My opinion only....

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    2. TJ,

      Possibly because she might have wished to give herself some extra time before people started searching for her in earnest.
      It could all have been a ruse in order to buy herself more time if she indeed was planning to permanently disappear.

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    3. I would agree with the buying time.

      If you just up and leave and fail to show up to both work and school, word will get out fairly quickly your boss will want to know where you are and likely contact her parents.

      If you have a week-long excuse for being gone (even though its false) you are in demand of no one and your family back home would never be notified, giving you ample time to do whatever you wanted to do.

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    4. If she wanted to buy time, why would she do so with her professors but not other people in her life? If you want to buy time from being investigated, you'd think about whom investigators would go to first -- friends and family. I'm a college professor and students frequently give me the white lie about a death in the family; it's just a way for them to get out of class for whatever reason without being penalized.

      -TJ

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  11. I believe she was driving to a party, birthday or concert with all that alcohol. Maybe she wanted to suprise somebody. I'm sure she knew people in that area from her previous visits up there. Seems like something a young woman might do. ~Kolina

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    1. I remain puzzled why anybody thinks Maura bought "all that liquor." If she was considering a return to Amherst after a few days, she would simply have taken back with her whatever she had not drunk. Why assume that just because she HAD it, she intended to drink it all in the next few days?

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    2. I don't really know the drinking habits of other people, but I have never bought that much alcohol at one time in my life. Also, I don't know about her college policy, but technically you weren't allowed to have alcohol in the dorms of my college even if you were 21. (Of course it happened, but I would think that since she had been in trouble in the past few months, she would not want to risk any violations in the dorm by storing it in her room.

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    3. I agree completely. it's almost the same price to buy 1L of liqueurs and vodka as it is half that. She would have just taken the excess back to the dorm.

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  12. Some of the items on this list illustrate my concern about this investigation. "Maura was having affair with UMass track coach" will serve as an example. As far as I can tell, this flat statement, presented as fact, is unattributed. Who said it, and to whom? It's hardly unheard of for a man to claim to have slept with an attractive woman when in fact he's only done so in his dreams and has never been closer to her than several feet. Certain men love this kind of cheap, empty boasting, apparently thinking it makes them look hot and important, when it really just makes them look insecure, phony and childish. And he then goes on to call her "promiscuous"? Yikes. Easy to say all that stuff, of course, when the woman in question isn't available to confirm or deny. So far as I can tell, the only person putting out this story is the UMAss track coach himself. Is there corroboration from anyone else? Did he say these things to LE? Was he polygraphed? If so, did he pass? Is this just another fairy tale, rumor, gossip, assumption or is it backed by anything vaguely resembling hard evidence? I think we need to take such assertions with a 10-lb. bag of salt. Maybe Maura did sleep with this guy; so what? None of my business what (or how many) men she slept with, and I'm not sure it has any bearing on her disappearance.

    Remember all the chatter recently about Maura's passport? What passport? Do we have hard evidence that she HAD a passport? Had Maura ever gone farther from Massachusetts than the Rausch's house in Ohio? Is there any reliable evidence that she was planning a trip out of the country? Are we talking about the same woman who is alleged to have thought that Oklahoma was the back of beyond? But everyone seemed to just hop on the assumption that she had a passport.

    Hard facts are scarce enough in this case. We need to stop assuming more and more stuff for which there's little to no evidence.

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    1. Exactly my thoughts. I think it rather bold to be just stating things like these as if they were solid fact. Not only did I not see any evidence for some of these "facts" - the UMass track coach being the prime example - but we haven't even been given the name of the article/piece/channel which published the interview/information in question. I doubt even Mr. Renner knows. This is pure speculation. And I think it's pretty safe to rule it out based on relevance alone.

      Same goes for Billy Rausch's apparent infidelity - this is pure heresay. Has it been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt? And furthermore, has it been proven relevant?

      Granted, I am well-aware that at this point we cannot possibly know what is and what isn't relevant, but I daresay we've been blessed with sound minds and an ability of making judgement calls - just as we don't consider psychic leads relevant, we might venture a step further and stop relying on uncorroborated information. Just as you said, hard facts are scare enough as it is.

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    2. If you click on the link to the statement, you will read the article about the interview(s). I don't think a man would claim to have had an affair with a missing woman just to boast. He also told the same story to LE. An assistant coach should not be dating someone on the track team. It was a risk for him to admit that and could also temporarily put him on the persons of interest list. It would be ridiculous for him to lie about dating her to "look important." He was probably hurt that she went back to Billy and could have also gone out with some other men when she left him. Bouncing from boyfriend to boyfriend, lying, drinking in excess and stealing are pretty good indicators that she was also promiscuous.

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    3. Thank you, Anonymous 12:12, for suggesting that I click on the link to the statement, but when I do, all I get is JR's original post, the one that begins "We are all sinners," and nowhere in there do I find a mention of the track coach's having spoken to LE. I could easily be missing something, however, and will appreciate your pointing me in the right direction.

      What irks me about the promiscuity assumptions is that if this were a man, I think people would be saying, admiringly, "Wow! He's a player!" but since it's a woman, she must be a slut.

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  13. Question, and I"m sorry if I missed this somewhere...

    Where all her "close" friends accounted for that evening? If yes, nevermind. If no....

    What if, they were planning a party. MM get's the alchohol (explains why it was missing). Plans a party at Breton woods, etc...

    Has an accident.stuffs a rag in the tailpipe to "explain" the accident (defer from the drinking)..walks 100yds up the road (where the dogs stopped tracking her) when her friends, who she was following, come back and pick her up.

    They party. MM has a concussion / internal injuries from the accident (cracked windshield / deployed airbags) and dies. Friends freak out, hide the body, etc...

    Plausible? Removes the theory of a predator, aliens, stalker, or running alone to Canada.

    Even Canada is going to require some form of ID to get a job, continue to support oneself yes?. If she was having an affair with a strange lover who met her and whisked her away to Canada, wouldn't that have shown up by now in phone bills, letters or info off her hard drive?

    Again, apologies if this was already discussed and I missed it. It's the small window of what, 8 mins, before the cops arrived and the time of the accident that bothers me.

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  14. Anon 1157. I think your's is a perfectly plausible variation on an active and viable theory, which more abstractly defined is that she was following someone and/or knew the person she left the scene with, was only getting out of dodge for few days, and simply ditched the car after the accident to dodge the DUI. Under this broader abstraction of a theory (one of maybe 4 or 5 that I see at this level of abstraction), the key differentiating factor is that there is real causal connection between her fate and her state of mind and troubles prior to the accident in terms of her fate thereafter. As such, given the strength of so many suggestions that there was much trouble in her mind, I tend to think a similar abstract theory (that she was meeting someone who may have had bad intentions in mind toward her, or with a plan to flee her life entirely) is a little more likely. But it is all unknown. Many theories are suggested by the facts, but none truly unambiguously. ~ John Green

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  15. I think it's very plausible that Maura may have suffered a concussion, internal injuries, or even memory loss, as a result of her accident. Perhaps whoever it was that picked her up may not have had improper thoughts, but did freak out when realizing something was wrong. They may have felt that they would be held responsible for not seeking medical attention. Of course, my initial reaction is, and has remained, that she fled of her own free will, based on her state of mind, her belongins being packed up, the pregnancy search on her computer, the accident she was involved in with her dad's car, etc. I still believe her father's reaction was not as calm upon learning of the damage to his vehicle as was reported. Any parent would have been at least agitated. I think she was mentally drained and the stress was more than she thought she could handle. A young lady of that age (at the time)would be capable of feeling that fleeing was the only way out. Who, at that age, does not make spontaneous, rash, sometimes regrettable decisions. Once she was gone for so long, it may have seemed incomprehensible to her to return home, feeling ashamed, embarrassed.
    Anon WV

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  16. I bet she was still there when the cops arrived, they probably suprised her. She could have hidden behind a bush, waited for them to finish up the accident scene and then headed up the road to get some reception on her phone to call some one to come and get her.

    I doubt that she was drunk, although she might have snuck a little drink.
    As I understand, she poured some liquor out(maybe an open bottle she didn't want to have to explain), took some along(maybe for some friends at some birthday party she might have been headed to in the area) and left the box of wine because it got damaged during the accident.

    After walking up the road, someone who had become aware of the commotion, seized his opportunity, posed as an official looking person and odered her to get into the car with him.

    I am sure the accident left her with some bumps and scrapes and somewhat dishevelled; those old airbags opened up quite violently. I just found this on youtube; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehs4TmQuHk0&feature=related

    As for the rag in the tailpipe; maybe the tailpipe was so porous and rusty that it let enough gas escape to not stall the car. Maybe Fred did give her that advice. It still was pretty clean because the car had just started 'smoking' again and she had just put it in. ~Kolina

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  17. Hi Everybody!
    I just found this blog, and I've been reading over all the posts from the beginning. Wow! Anyway, I don't want to interject before I'm finished reading, but I just had to say one small thing. There's been a lot of speculation about Maura's going up into Canada and getting a job,. I'm Canadian (Maura's age), I live about 1 hour north of Toronto, and just like in the U.S., you do need an i.d. card to get a job (legal, by the books jobs anyways)... it's called a social insurance card here (SIN). So yes, for any decent job here, to make a good living, she would need ID. And it's a lengthy process if you don't have a Canadian birth certificate. And at that time, you couldn't fly anywhere (except to the US) without a passport.
    Thanks!
    Sharon

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  18. What is in that book about people who disappered in the area the author wrote about. Would it be anything Miss Murray would be thinking about while going there.
    My mind keeps thinking that she was on the run even before the open bottle and accident. Could anyone have followed her. I am not a great driver and well in my past in the dark looking along the highways in the dark turned into drives and such with cars behind me not so easily, since they prefer not to slow down to let me make my turn. rather dangerous way to do so and on snow or if ice to boot. Sometimes I just want to turn around and back track. It's hard to follow a map and drive in the dark.
    also the destination may have been something before that destination on the map. It still outlines where you want to go regardless if it is between the two.
    do I make any sense.
    I like it here that at least you listen to speculation without the ridicule. With out speculation of motive and outcome you get nowhere.. I saw the Missing person program this week. by accident of course. since it was so vague I had wondered if she had been found or just to see what was thought about it. Thus my reading of these comments. I was also curious if others had been missing and I have sucessfully gotten my answers. thanks

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  19. apologies if this was already discussed and I missed it

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  20. I think someone close to Maura who Maura trusted is the one who killed her. I think she got pregnant by the UMass coach, I think someone said Sarah had told Fred something and that something was the pregnancy. I think Fred felt his family honour go down the drain. He possibly instructed Maura to take some time off, write to her professors, maybe go to Bartlett. He then followed her, maybe a mile behind,(on disappeared he explained exactly where the car was, as if he was there, yet no pics of scene, he was there all right). Maura crashed her car just near the old barn. She walked away quickly then she saw her dad, someone she trusted, on the Corner of Bradley Hill road and Wild Ammonoosuc road, no skuffles, she hopped in his rental car, because his was being fixed,(we need to know how many miles he put on that car) killed her and drove 3 hours and 57 minutes to Bridgport CT, the burried her in his yard. I believe if you get his rental car receipt with his miles on it it will confirm this. His motive, dishonour. It all fits beautifully every piece of the puzzle.

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    1. I really like this theory but the ending driving all the way home and burying her in his yard of all spots ? Not sure we need to all somehow solve this presure that county's sherif department to reopen it and look at Fred harder!!

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  21. Did anyone look into the track coach any more than what is stated? He seems to be the only one who stated she wanted to run away. Could it be a cover up from his wrong doing? Where was he at during the time of her disappearance? What type of drinks does he drink to see if it matches same choice of Mauras purchase? Could he have been angry from finding out she wanted to stay with Billy? or was seeing other guys on the track team?

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