Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Silence from Fred Murray

Long before I learned anything about Fred Murray--other than he was a father who was searching for his daughter--he made it well known that he didn't want a book written about Maura. Immediately, he asked Maura's closest friends to not speak with me. I thought this behavior was quite odd at the time and still do, actually. What father wouldn't want information out there that could help find their missing daughter?

Unfortunately, there has been no direct response from Fred, himself, after emails, letters, and phone calls to his direct line. Which, I suppose, isn't too surprising. I've spoken to a number of other journalists and TV news crews. In the past, he has demanded total control over the content of the program or article and he probably knows he can't get that from me.

Last week, I spoke to his lawyer. I proposed a sit-down in the lawyer's office and an interview on camera, so that there would be no twisting of words or spin of any kind about what he has to say.

It's been a week and I've not heard back.

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  1. I've really gotten a better picture of Fred here on the blog. Before, he seemed like just a concerned dad who was a little too focused on finding his daughter. But now that more of his story has come out, my view of Fred is control freak/helicopter parent at best and predator at worst. But maybe Fred really is a stand up guy who is hurting bad. Unfortunately, since he won't talk, we just don't know.

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    1. I'm not sure if any parent could ever be "too" focused on finding their daughter after she had gone missing. I know that if I was a parent, and my daughter just seemingly disappeared, my only concern would be to find her, and I assume that pretty much any parent would do the same thing.

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    2. To Publicola,

      Maybe Fred is a stand up guy who is hurting bad???? Maybe? Are you kidding? This poor man has lost his daughter with no relief of closure because he doesn't know what happened to her.
      Of course he's controlling. He's trying to find his daughter.

      What kind of person are you? Clearly not a parent. And if I'm wrong, then I pity your children. Have you no soul?

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    3. A little too focused on finding his daughter? Seriously? I would move heaven and earth to find any child of mine that was missing. I can't even fathom that you meant this and I certainly hope it was just misspoken words.

      I don't know if there is a play book on how a person should act when their child is missing and I would hate to be judged during my darkest hours the way Fred Murray has been judged. My prayers are with Fred and his family, as well as for Maura. I pray for peace and strength for all of them.

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  2. I can't wrap my mind around he doesn't want to help. After 8 years, I would welcome ANY help. I know you aren't going to break the bank with this book, but I wouldn't care if you made millions as long as I found my child. Only reason to want control and not help is to protect himself. This means he knows much more.

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    1. Herm, I've agreed with all of your posts. They reflect my thinking, as well.
      I look to Fred Murray, as well, with reasonable suspicion.

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  3. Dear Mr. Murray,

    Please grant Mr. Renner the opportunity to interview you. We on this blog are only here to help you look for your beloved and precious daughter Maura. We saw the Disappeared episode and we read other websites and for many reasons we are drawn to her, and that brought us to the this blog to share our thoughts and feelings with others who share the common goal of finding her. We can only imagine how heartbreaking and painful this must be for you. We can only imagine how frustrated and angry you must feel as each day passes without her. We all want to help you. We are not your enemies. The truth is, when you do not grant the interview, you leave us to speculate and generate theories about her disappearance. We understand that there are private issues in your lives that you would probably rather not be made public. However, the fact that Maura has disappeared puts her in the public eye and the more we know about her and the circumstances of her life, the better chance we might have of solving this mystery. We all have dirty laundry, Mr. Murray. We don't want to hold you or Maura in judgment. We just want to help you find Maura. I hope you are reading this blog and think about what it means to you to find Maura. We want to help you. Give us a chance to do so. Mr. Renner is gathering information to help you find Maura, nothing more and nothing less. We are all invested in Maura's case and want to find her. Let us help you. Grant Mr. Renner the interview. It will be on camera with your lawyer present. Open your heart and mind to the possibility. Do it for your daughter. Please don't let the public speculate any longer and create theories about Maura that are simply not true. I would do this in a moment for my daughter. What are you afraid of? What is stopping you?

    Respecfully submitted,

    SW in Minnesota

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  4. Very, very interesting. Obviously we don't know what sort of "sense" you got from the lawyer, as in whether s/he agrees with you and wishes Fred would loosen up a little, since it could very well help with what I hope to hell is the point of all this--finding out what happened to Maura--because lawyers have to sound as bland as farina, neutral as all get out, but even if s/he tries his or her damndest to get Fred to the interview table, and succeeds, I suspect the next hurdle would be getting Fred to agree to relinquish total control over what you chose to publish of what he said. I can see him demanding editorial control over the tape, for example, and causing all kinds of grief over every word.

    I wish Fred understood that he's not protecting Maura, but may be protecting, inadvertently, with all this overcontrol, a vicious, depraved, violent predator who's free to kill and kill again.

    A lot of negative things have been written about Maura, but I don't think many--if any--people on this blog think she was a "bad" person or that she's not worth looking for, dead or alive. We're still behind her, and really want to bring some peace and understanding to everyone who knew and loved her.

    Fred, lighten up, man. We're on your side, and Maura's.

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  5. I think you have uncovered some interesting information, but I also think there has been a ton of speculation and innuendo here that he may see as a waste of time or worse. I've lost count of how many times you've pointed out he would not talk with law enforcement for two years - and was accompanied by lawyers when he did. (The Feb. 22 statement you recently posted shows he did talk with police earlier.) So on the one hand you're implying it would be helpful to him and his daughter to be on board with you while at the same time you are very focused on what he may be hiding. Maybe he is hiding something, maybe not, but, devil's advocate here, he might just not see why you would be all that useful.

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    1. It was two years before he would let detectives interview him. He refused to be subjected to their questions unless he was accompanied by his lawyers. That document was just his statement. Big difference.

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  6. As a parent of a 22 year old senior in college, the drinking and driving is a problem. I know of very few people who drink with their college age children. As a teacher, I find this behavior subject to many questions. The phone calls should be explained. If he feels guilt because of the drinking and the original accident, I can understand that. Could that have been what prompted her behavior? Quite posssibly.

    On the other hand there may have been an accumulation of things building up in this young person's life of which we are unaware. His unwillingness to speak with you about it does not surprise me, as there are some very delicate questions which he may not want to answer. He has suffered much. Should he answer these questions? In my mind, there will come a time when he may have to answer them. I am sure that he has answered them in his own mind thousands of times. MDW

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  7. In getting the sense Renner knows more about Fred than what's stated on here. I'm leaning toward Fred and Maura planning to meet in Vermont that fateful night.

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    1. Yep. I have the same feeling. Renner has had both "on the record" and "off the record" conversations with key individuals in this case. There are people who know what happened but simply can't prove it.

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    2. I agree. But as Kathleen (Maura's sister) stated "Something went wrong."

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    3. The Maura and Fred meeting in Vt theory fit well in my head. It explained the alcohol for me. Maura's car was crappy and she didn't drive it often? Welp, that sucks because Maura crashed Fred's car.. Guess she has to drive hers now... maybe?

      What happened after the crash on the curve.. I have no idea. Maybe she was headed to meet her father in Vt, crashed an effing car AGAIN, was like to hell with this, I can't stand in front of my father and break this news again, and took off. Maybe they had planned a mini booze filled getaway to Vt after a huge fight over his crashed car. So many maybes..IDK!

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    4. Some good ideas here. I really believe Fred is a involved in this for a couple of reasons: the rag in the muffler was his idea. He wanted it to be known early on that he had that base covered. 2. Mounting debt and shame caused by Maura( credit fraud, wrecked cars), 3. The 230am hotel meeting after crash one. She was determined to get back to him for whatever reason. 4. She just happens to run away and disappear the exact weekend he was up( day after) to visit. 5. Maura was forced to use the Saturn to drive up north because of wrecking the Toyota. She had no other option. who picked her up after the 2nd wreck remains unclear. I like the odds of it being who she traveled with instead of a random predator. The time frame was quite short and the bus driver took up a few minutes of her alone time on the road.

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    5. I will have to say that with your number 4 bulletin.. it wasn't unusual for Fred to visit Maura on campus. He drove down once a month for a weekend to spend time with her. They would try out new restaurants in the area.

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  8. how strange. I just compare this to the Lauren Spierer disappearance. She was engaged in unsavory behavior before she disappeared and was not perfect by any means. And this hasn't made a bit of difference regarding the concern of the community. Her parents will still talk to anyone who will listen and don't bring lawyers everywhere with them.

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    1. I agree. There are so many young people that go missing and we just want to know they are alive. We all make mistakes, especially when we are young and learning. We just want to find Maura.

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    2. Did the cops try not to look for her and tell the community it was a suicide?

      It seems relatively obvious to me that NH LE f-ed up this case over the first 48 hours and FM was pissed and they've never kissed and made up.

      -TL

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  9. I had an overcontrolling father too, so I hope I can be helpful with some insights into this personality type, for those on the blog who remain convinced that Fred was complicit in Maura's disappearance, and for Fred himself, if he reads the blog.

    Controlling parents are domestic dictators, mini-dictators if you like. What's the first thing a dictator does when he seizes power? He kills free speech. Seeing the free exchange of information/ideas as a threat--because it can't be controlled--he fears it; it has to go. When the media are muzzled, and everybody else, if he can swing it, his anxiety level drops; he's back in control. Of course he isn't, because information will inevitably leak out around all the cracks--often dreadfully inaccurate information--but when that happens, he'll typically just stomp down harder.

    Also understand that for a controlling parent, the disappearance of a child (of any age) is probably the penultimate nightmare scenario. Talk with any parent, particularly any father, who's been there, and one of the first things you'll hear is, "I've never felt so helpless in my life!" In this context, "helpless" means "out of control." When do we feel helpless? When we can't control situations and events.

    Such people may also be quite untrusting of others. Why? Because he doesn't know what they're going to say or do--in his mind they're loose cannons--and he can't control them.

    Thus Fred said early on that he didn't want anybody to write a book about Maura, and he doesn't trust LE and he doesn't trust James and he doesn't trust Maura's woman friends ("Don't talk to that man!") and he doesn't much trust . . . anybody.

    Well, look what happened when his back was turned, when he wasn't hands-on controlling Maura: My God, she disappeared! See? This is what happens unless I hold every string tightly wound around my hands! Chaos reigns!

    I've read that such people typically feel quite out of control internally, thus the perceived need to control everybody else. If they don't sit on everything and everybody, the world will explode. Fear, fear, fear.

    One thing I wish mightily is that at least one of Maura's Hanson woman friends would put her Big-Girl Pants on and say, "Mr. Murray, with great respect, I cannot allow you to dictate what I say or don't say, about Maura, or to whom." I think they all know him well, as he coached their teams when they were growing up, and they think they're "helping" by bowing to his wishes. They're not. They're potentially hurting the investigation and certainly allowing themselves to be treated like children, with no rights and no brains of their own. Oddly enough, people under that kind of bootheel often think that they're keeping shtum of their own free will, when in fact they're just catching someone else's fear and agreeing to perpetuate it.

    It doesn't surprise me that so many people believe Fred was directly involved in Maura's disappearance. "He's not talking! He must be hiding something!" Well, yeah, he probably knows things about her that aren't to her credit--but so do the rest of us by now, and so what?--but what he's really doing is protecting himself. Operative word: himself. From the unbearable anxiety of being out of control.

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    1. This. I'm really surprised it's so hard for everyone to come to this conclusion. He hasn't trusted anyone since the beginning, not because they aren't doing a good job, but because he's not in control.

      Making matters worse, I think he may have said something to Maura to make her go on the trip. Thus, he feels completely helpless and responsible for her disappearance.

      As a parent, I can say there have been times when I've said something to my child that I regret. It sucks, but it happens.

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    2. Come on!! Don't you know that men have the "protector" role and when something happens they just want to "fix it" and they do feel helpless when they cant bc thats their job! Stop all the psycho babble! Hes a distraught father

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    3. @ Meg - THANK YOU! Finally someone said it!
      There is a fine line between accusing someone of being 'controlling' (which for fathers of missing daughters sometimes comes naturally) and calling them downright abusing and psychotic, which is what some of the people here are calling him. And then we wonder why Fred won't mingle with us on this blog. Seriously.

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    4. Exactly Anonymous. I dont blame the guy bc many people here already have him tried and convicted, SAD

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    5. @Meg & Anon-12:07...preach on!

      And Anon-8:21, I think it is, absolutely, because LE started off doing a TERRIBLE job.

      The second they found out that the owner and likely driver of the vehicle was not local and was probably intoxicated an all out search should have begun. Period. They found out both of those things at the accident scene.

      Instead two cops and a civilian drove around the block, once. 15 hours later a "Be On the Look Out" (BOLO) was issued. 36 hours later Fish and Game finally began a search. And just under 48 hours later the police released a statement that Maura was probably in the area to run away or commit suicide.

      And just like that, the crucial "first 48" hours were wasted. THAT IS NOT A GOOD JOB. NOT AT ALL.

      Any father of a missing child would be distraught at best given that scenario. And everyone missing a kid would feel helpless. Sheesh.

      -TL

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  10. Just had a thought: that was 2 car wrecks in 3 days for Maura. Both cars were in Freds name. What if they were driving in tandem and she wrecked the Saturn, ( or he put the rag in the muffler pipe), and he went back to find yet another car in his named totaled. Maybe he swooped her up and a altercation unfurled. One could see major bills and debt for Fred occurring and high insurance. Just a theory.

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    1. I don't think this is feasible because who would drive in tandem with their daughter knowing there were open (and never opened) containers of alcohol in the interior of her car? Mind you, not transporting them in the trunk, but out in the open in the car? My state has an open container law.

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    2. Sorry Herm but this one does not cut the mustard. Fred was probably loaded the night that his car was smashed. I just want to know if she said said that the car was not driveable then how did she get to the motel. Had it been towed and she got a ride from someone? She arrives at 2 AM and then makes 3 calls on Fred's cell at 5 AM without disturbing him. He said that he did not see her until 10 AM. All of this makes no sense.

      What was he doing driving all the way out to Umass and drinking with his daughter and sending her out to party? Why not just load the gun? If he wanted a car and had a $4,000 down payment in his pocket, she would have had a new car that day and she never would have been driving his. MDW

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    3. I see your point. But Fred let Maura take his new car knowing she had been drinking at the Amherst brew company and would be drinking at the party. He even took them to the liquor store. Drinking wasn't a big deal in this family, IMO. But who knows?

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    4. It could cut some mustard, somewhere knowing Fred's statement was full of holes. Also, this is Freds statement. We dont even know for sure if they even looked at cars. Her best friend was unaware of it, and she had supper with them that night . Just a theory. That's all. Trying to kick ideas out.

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  11. A lot of good points have been made here, and I can even see becoming reticent after all these years/lost hope. But to not cooperate at the outset of the vanishing?

    Not buying that.

    Not even from a control freak.

    Don't have the names handy, but remember the Farm Mom who took her two teen daughters vacationing in FLA and accepted a nighttime boat tour from what turned out to be a rapist/killer? (Raped and threw them overboard tied to cement blocks ALIVE to die/drown? Finally caught and got death penalty?)

    Farm Mom's family had plenty of skeletons in the closet . . . her hub became person of interest despite alibi and he withstood it all . . . revelations of his brother molesting one of the daughters . . . bad finances on and on. He didn't care about ANY of it . . . he just wanted justice for whoever killed his family.

    That's how innocent people roll.

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  12. Like everyone else, I'm just speculating.

    Fred probably doesn't know what your intentions are with producing this book. Many of us have unfortunately run into many people in our lives who have interior motives, and are money hungry.

    I don't believe you have any wrong intentions and like you have pointed out, it isn't about the money. In fact, you're spending much of your own money by traveling to New England.

    Just for the hell of it, have you tried writing a letter or email to Frank? Maybe if he received a genuine letter from a caring person, maybe he'll change his mind.

    Good luck and God bless!!

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  13. Fred:I have a 23 year old daughter that reminds me very much of Maura. Excellent student, excellent athlete. When she began college she had a few problems. The school campus allowed the kids to drink and she was involved in a few minor problems like most of her classmates were. I, and specially her father, went to see her and speak to her many times when we believed things needed inmediate attention. The way Maura seems to me seems not different than my daughter and many of her friends.It is all part of growing up. Not a day goes by that I don't think of Maura. I hold her very close to my heart as do many people on this blog,including Mr Rener. I am sure. Please do what you can to help him find her...

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  14. I know I have become the defender of Fred here, and to an extent on Topix (a site I can't even look at anymore, too many vile idiots on that board), but the whole thing about them not bringing up the new car to Kate...I don't see it as a big deal. It is my hunch he wasn't buying her a brand new car, but probably a used one for $4k or less. I mean, is she so excited she's getting a used car that she brags to Kate? I don't get it. It also, to me, isn't sketchy that he brought lawyers with him for the questioning. I believe he thought it was a waste of time and not going to be helpful. He gave the police the statement he thought would help them, and to me it just seems so obvious that he was trying to protect his daughter's name due to all the trouble she had been in in the past few months. And James, no offense, but some people do see crime and crime-type books as exploitation. I don't think Fred is any different in that regard.

    II see comments like "I can't wrap my mind around he doesn't want to help," and I can't help but scoff at that because interpretation is everything, and I really don't think Fred sees it like that. He probably feels like his daughter is being exploited, and people see that as him not helping. I don't have a hard time seeing where Fred is coming from. I do hope he talks to you, James, either on or off the record, just so we can all understand better what his frame of mind is. As far as your argument that he doesn't want the publicity - you are publishing the book with or without him, right? Publicity accounted for. His actions do not put him in a guilty light, especially him going after the police departments in court. Even if he was using reverse psychology as some people think he is (to make himself "look innocent"), wouldn't he fear possible retaliation from them? Does he think cops are that stupid, that they wouldn't think he is just trying to make himself look less guilty?

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    1. he didn't help when she first went missing.
      He made no attempt to help police.
      all we know about this case is based on Fred.
      Fred has been rude to news reporters and journalists.

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    2. Agreed wholeheartedly. I've become somewhat of a Fred-protector myself, and not without good reason - I do not know the man personally, he does not remind me of anyone I know at all.

      What you've said is simply sensible to me. None of what Fred has done or is said to have done has made him suspicious in my eyes, nor do I for a second believe him involved. Why? Simply because he acts in a way I might have acted in his shoes.

      Like it or otherwise, some people do see true crime books as exploitation, especially if written by a complete outsider.
      And far be it from Fred to not want publicity. The man spoke with every news station he could, and still does. ID ("Disappeared") produced a segment on Maura which heavily features Fred, as well as that ABC documentary about Maura and Brooke that came out a few years ago. He spoke to Maribeth Conway. He spoke to everyone. He spoke to that whole damn part of NH, by the looks of it. Many times. My question (through an e-mail) to the family about whether I could publish an artwork I created on the anniversary of her disappearance (and which James later featured on this blog) was met with honest confusion - why would I not be allowed to, they wondered? I explained about understanding if they didn't want publicity - but they do. At least that kind.

      We must also face the fact that this blog hasn't had a nice word for Fred since its inception, and that many of the things said about Maura herself weren't entirely positive. I do not believe that the family is "too ashamed" - I don't think that they were ever ashamed of Maura. I believe that it is just too painful, too unbelievably heart wrenching, to hang on to every word anyone gets to write here. We hide under the veil of anonymity, and so get to speak whatever crosses our minds. We are not weighed down, as the family is, by the unimaginable grief that follows every single one of those speculations. At best we can empathize - and most of us do - but we don't feel Maura as they do, and our words, however much justified, might hurt. Why put yourself through all that, in Fred's case, when you know much more than we do and you can just drive up and do your own investigative work, as he has done for years? He is portrayed as the villain here. Why should he give this blog a time of his day?

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    3. Thank you. I'm getting tired of defending FM by myself.

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  15. Why would Fred help?

    Think about it now. Operating under the assumption that Maura truly is missing to Mr. Murray, why would he help Mr. Renner with a book?

    He's already indicated he believes this to be an attempt to make money off his little girls death. She's still missing, 8 years later. He's obsessive and sick about it - as many parents would be. He doesn't understand all of the obsession about Mauras past, and certainly his. He believes her to be the victim of foul play from a local individual.

    And while he's living this miserable life, 100% sure that his child is dead and convinced that the police, etc aren't taking it doing enough - he's got random people digging through his garbage and posting articles about his porn.

    Why would he give the time of day?

    What, because the book would help? Because Bob - sitting in his grandmas basement in his underwear sipping from his Garfield coffee mug is going to "figure this whole thing out," even though we're just now seeing evidence they've had for 8 years? Internet fanboys aren't going to solve this case and he knows that.

    I read this blog because I'm interested in the case, just like you. But please guys - don't dilute yourselves into thinking that there's a lead, individual, test, plot of land, etc that hasn't been looked at that could be. Sure, they aren't going to announce it, but of course they have. The case is on TV all the damn time still. It's a departments worst nightmare - there's so much liability at this point, and so many greasy fingers are going to pick every part of their involvement apart in retrospect...

    My point is, if this is ever solved, the police will solve it. Or Maura. Mr. Murray knows that. All of this? on here? To Mr. Murray, this is a sick perversion of his daughters life and death, his daughters privacy, and he and his families lives and futures.

    I personally can't even imagine just how much contempt the guy has to have for you, Mr. Renner.

    Now that being said - although the site... veers outside the boundaries of what I'd consider related or even respectable from time to time, I still get that this is a group of mostly concerned people who find this easily relatable young woman's disappearance shocking and disheartening and just want to see her safe return. But cases like these bring sick and the vultures out of the woodwork. I'm sure Mr. Murray has encountered more bad people throughout this ordeal than imaginable, and I don't see him ever making efforts to help you.

    BTW... The retard that was posting the videos online - I live in Shreveport/Bossier City. There's nothing "sinful" or weird about the place, or that hotel. The Beacon is just an old hotel. The owners watch that place like a hawk, nothing funny happened there. Please just stop feeding the troll...

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    1. Fred has been in complete control over all things related to Maura and her coverage in the media. James has inside knowledge of what police think happened. And, if what I think is true, like others, Fred is involved in her disappearance. Maura was supposed to call Fred the night she wrecked at 8 o'clock. Phone records show he didn't try to call her when she didn't call him. On the long drive to New Hampshire to start the search, did he try to call her friends? Umass? Maura's phone? No. First statement was she was "doing the old squaw walk". Fishy? Yes. Sounds like he's building an alibi. 2 years of not talking to cops? Explain.

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  16. I think we are all getting carried away with these theories/scenerios---after watching the "Disappeared" episode---i honestly believe Maura was abducted by a passing motorist, or someone who lives in the area. As far as the 'stuffed tailpipe', i believe this was done by who ever picked her up,or abducted her, to make it look like it was a potential suicide. The one thing that does mystify me is the Wiki article that states in late 2004 a man gave Fred a rusty bloody knife, and the "A" frame house where cadaver dogs went bonkers. Have any of these statements been verified? and if they are true, what ever became of them?

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    1. Go back in the archives in this blog to last summer or before and you will see that this theory has been debunked by several people including Mr. Renner.

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  17. Hey Herm, you are reaching. I've explained what you are asking once if not twice by now.

    "Maura was supposed to call Fred the night she wrecked at 8 o'clock. Phone records show he didn't try to call her when she didn't call him. On the long drive to New Hampshire to start the search, did he try to call her friends? Umass? Maura's phone? No. First statement was she was "doing the old squaw walk". Fishy? Yes. Sounds like he's building an alibi. 2 years of not talking to cops? Explain."

    So, she was supposed to call him. And you are asking why didn't he call her? What?! That makes him look guilty, that he didn't call her when she was supposed to call him? I don't think so. Maybe if YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE HIM LOOK GUILTY it does.

    I don't remember seeing Fred's phone log, but maybe his other daughter said that they have tried calling all her friends and haven't been able to get a hold of any of them. Also is not a sign of guilt...

    Fred didn't think talking to detectives would help. And guess what? It didn't...they still haven't found her.

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    1. I don't get into message board pissing matches. Here's the facts: a girl is missing. Father won't talk to police for 2 years. He brings lawyers when he does. Know any other missing person cases like this. All I'm doing is kicking around ideas. That is what this blog is about. Did I ever say the father murdered her? No. Im trying to follow on the path James is on. the truth is you know about has much as I do and we both know very little. Im not a message board junkie. I don't go to Topix and spread gossip. IM kicking around ideas. If Fred Murray doesn't want or like this, let him clear himself. Talk to Renner. Put it all out there. Find this person. That's what is important.

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    2. @Brian - What parent does not go directly to the police to talk about their daughter when she goes missing? He knew her car was headed in the direction of where they used to go on vacation each year. That information was critical to having the police search those areas. For all Fred knew, she could have been staying at one of the condos or hotels that they had stayed at before. That would have helped the cops. "Fred didn't think talking to the detectives would help" is just plain ignorant and "suspicious" on his part. This was all critical information that could have helped with the case right at the beginning.

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    3. Also, I really don't think the father had anything to do with her disappearance as far as hurting her, being an evil person, etc. However, being extremely uncooperative with police is bizarre. Maybe they had a fight and he felt guilty that she left/ran away. He thinks she is dead and he feels guilty that he caused her to run away and get taken by a predator. But the key is why was he cooperative with news crews for the most part, but NOT with police? That is what we are getting at here.

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    4. Fred needs to put all his information on the table as we also want to see him find his Daughter! Most of the information about your Daughter is out there anyways so in order to help her you need to give a very clear picture of what your Daughter's concerns where- bulimia, credit card fraud, a possible hit and run accident, alcoholism, leaving or being asked to leave Westpoint. Its all out in the public domain already so you may as well come clean so many others who want to help you can. And to the people who think she was pregnant her BCP were one of the items found in her car, not that they are 100%, but they are quite effective in preventing pregnancy.

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    5. Anon 4/21/12-9:23: I'm with you. I think a lot of the strange speculation and absurd theories have bubbled up because the public at large is trying to fill in a void left by an absence of solid info from the earliest days. Mr Murray has the opportunity to set the record straight, such as it is. If it means having to 'fess up to white lies told early on in the case (if he told them, not saying he did!), so be it. Dings to his pride would be a small price to pay to clear the air.

      If he can't talk to Mr Renner because he's been asked not to talk by LE, then for the love of God, he should say so.

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  18. Any update? This father has behaved suspiciously.

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  19. "He knew her car was headed in the direction of where they used to go on vacation each year. That information was critical to having the police search those areas. For all Fred knew, she could have been staying at one of the condos or hotels that they had stayed at before."

    Well, her phone records indicated that already, since she called those places before she left. But, that's right - it took LE months to follow up on those, and only at the behest of Fred and Sharon.

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  20. Didn't Fred have to call LE back TWO times the afternoon and evening after Maura disappeared because LE wasn't returning his calls to them? According to the records made public, YES. Wow...now why on earth wouldn't he trust them and then ask for FBI assistance? I just can't imagine!*

    *=sarcasm

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    1. are you saying LE is not up to par? All you know about this case is what fred allows us to know.

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    2. You wonderful, sarcastic person.

      Precisely what I came here to say, but you said it so well for me. (No sarcasm here.)
      And then people wonder why he mistrusts the LE... Just go watch the dispute over the release of those 2500 documents, all "an exception to the NH Right-To-Know law" that's on Youtube, and it's clear who's got it all wrong - the state.

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  21. To be honest, from watching the episode of Disappeared, I really don't see why she would leave everything behind over a little car accident. I'm sorry, but, she could have gotten over that.

    Unless, there were other stuff not mentioned in the episode or I don't know, it just doesn't really add up.

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    1. In your mind it may be no big deal, but to someone else it may be the end of the world. Not everyone has the same thought process as you and it was the second car accident of that weekend! That would really put up the car insurance and she was on probation for credit card fraud.

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  22. I keep coming back to what John Walsh & others who have experienced the horror of having their small child abducted by a stranger: they do EVERYTHING in their power to find their child by talking with the police immediately, offering to take polygraphs, allowing even embarrassing things like extra-marital affairs become public knowledge in their quest to offer everything to get their child back.

    Fred has not done this. I have to wonder what is so terrible that he just refuses to offer any information about Maura and the events leading to her disappearance?

    We cannot just blot out her entire life, activities, problems and actions leading up to her going missing. Her disappearance does not begin at the car wreck--it begins at least at West Point. Her life circumstances and her reaction to them tell the story we need to know to find out what happened to her.

    Fred does not seem willing to tell the truth, nor is he willing to let others seek the truth. That really concerns me. Even if I had to confess to being a crack addict, thief or prostitute, I would do it immediately if it meant that I would have my missing child back. A parent should be willing to do anything it takes to get to the truth.

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  23. @Anon 12:28 if the police called me about my daughter and said she was missing, I wouldn't call and leave a message, and then wait for a return call. I would drive to the police station that had called me immediately! Fred must have known about Maura's past troubles with the law (credit card theft) and that is why the disappearance did not alarm him enough to go straight to the police station. It's like "now what has she done?"

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  24. May 6, 2012 11:32 PM - Pretty sure he was driving to NH when he made those calls. I may be wrong on that detail, but I believe I am right. It wasn't a matter of driving down the street to the police station.

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