Saturday, March 30, 2013

Tim Carpenter Speaks... At Length

Tim Carpenter is the former husband of Kathleen Murray, Maura's older sister. I spoke to him at length today and he had some very interesting things to say about the early days of Maura's disappearance. He was on the ground in New Hampshire, beside Fred during the searches.

"He was weird about it. Me. If it was my daughter, I'd a been outside at the crack of dawn, starting the searches every day. Him, he'd get up maybe ten a.m. and I'd say, 'we better get started.' Then he'd stop about five and bring everyone to the restaurant and start drinking and it would be a party."

"I remember him pointing up to the mountain and saying, 'She walked up there. We'll find her at the top. Drunk and naked.' Why naked?"

Tim also collected the packed-up boxes from Maura's dorm. Fred was waiting at the dorm with the boxes and they loaded them into the back of Tim's truck. Some of the material, like Maura's computer, were eventually collected by investigators. The rest eventually ended up in the trash compactor at the dump where Tim works, after he lost his house a few years back.

He also says Maura was about to be punished by West Point for stealing make-up when she left and enrolled at Amherst.

22 comments:

  1. Did he tell you what Kathleen was arrested for? Her trouble in Maine?

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  2. Very interesting. At this point, I'm totally swayed and convinced that she ran away.

    I also want to say that I doubt Fred was in Amherst that weekend to buy Maura a used car. Whatever the reason for him being there... must have a lot to do with her being missing. Why else would Julie said it would 'interfere with the investigation' if she told you?

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  3. Oh wow. This isn't surprising given that Fred seems like he wants to keep things hidden. What is surprising is the "drunk and naked" comment. Also the waking up late and stopping at 5. It probably was getting dark in February, but it is surprising he would be sleeping that late, much less sleeping at all.

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    1. He must be referring to the 'squaw walk'...her suicide, don't you think?

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    2. Perhaps? Neither are very positive things to think of your missing child, even if you are exhausted and stressed out. Those comments make it seem like he was mad at her. Maybe that is why he looks so remorseful on the Disappeared program.

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  4. I very much respect the family's wishes for privacy but in the context of what might have happened to Maura as a potential crime victim, I cannnot understand this level of secrecy. One can speak to a journalist about issues that are very personal without compromising many other things...In a case like this, publicity is essential...

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    1. Totally agree. Every time I think of when Morgan Harrington's father was interviewed for Disappeared. He said that even if it wasn't in the best light, publicity still was publicity and they needed that to help find his daughter and he would not ignore a request. Pretty hard to find something in the dark without a little light shed.

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  5. please tell us- there are quite a few of us out there that are really interested in this case, in Maura and what happened to her. There are things that are just not right with this case.

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  6. James, has anyone told you what Fred's drink of choice was?

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  7. This looks very interesting. I have long thought that this case was most likely a suicide with an undiscovered body, but you're starting to make me think otherwise. It's a shame that the room contents went to the dump, but if it was a family problem that she was trying to escape, there probably wouldn't have been many clues there.

    Chris

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  8. I do think that more is known of Maura's motivations for leaving and Fred's reasons for visiting her, but IMO that is about it. If she had run away and numerous individuals were holding the secret, at some point someone would spill the beans.
    Go James GO! someone has to get the truth out, and if everyone is standing in the way you have to do what it takes.
    Frankly, the more I hear about Fred the more he seems like a real D-bag. If all of the postings are accurate, then I think he must only are about things as the relate to himself. He obviously had children with problems. HELP THEM, who cares how it looks to others. Who would not move Heaven and earth to find their child?

    Why has no one that knows the truth broken ranks with Fred or that family?

    I've heard enough from the angry "respect their privacy" crowd. You can respect the privacy of the living, but there is an interest in justice and public safety involved in this case, and if she's alive prove it and all of this can be over. If any of the mystery buffs reading this blog have watched the many disappearance/mystery programs, every parent would give anything to have this attention and a James Renner helping. The behaviors of the family and friends in this case are beyond rational. At some point you choose to do the right thing.

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  9. Can't help think that James is getting close to the truth.would explain why certain voices are now accusing him of harassment.lots of family with missing loved ones would give their right arm to have a book written & publicity

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  10. I see the five people over at Topix are already smearing Tim. What open-minde sleuths they are. If you read this blog and are new to following this case, stay away from Topix. I would suggest anyone stay away from any Topix board for that matter. It's toxic.

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    1. There are a few good people on Topix, that are more with 'fact' than opinion..but I agree. I can't believe how much drama people bring on topix, nor can i believe the amount of 'belittling' and bullying some of them do on that board.. it's disgusting and wrong. They waste SO MUCH TIME on that board either fighting with eachother, correcting eachother.. or flat out pulling power trips.. I simply do not go on that board anymore, for the fact of how awful some of the people talk to one another on there. They think they 'own' the case.

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  11. I'm just offering up a scenario if I went missing. I have some family that wouldn't look for me due to the fact dirty laundry would be aired. Just saying, some laundry is so dirty that people will do anything to keep it in the laundry basket.

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  12. Hello! I'm a newbie to this blog, but not to Maura's case. I have lived in the Amherst area for twelve years now, and this story grabbed my attention from Day One. Sadly, I did not follow it as closely as most of you, and I'm looking forward to catching up on Mr. Renner's posts.

    I see three possible scenarios...suicide, foul play, or just a need to start over in a new place under a new identity. It has been reported that Maura was acting "funny" (depressed? intoxicated?) in the days prior to her disappearance. Somehow, I don't believe she took her own life...at least not intentionally. She may have wandered into the woods in the dark and under the influence...under such circumstances, I don't believe she would have made it too far and her remains would have been recovered. Just my opinion.

    Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself. I look forward to following this blog.

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  13. Key phrase here is "former husband". He has a potential axe to grind. I would take what he says with a grain of salt. How many guys have "crazy" ex-girlfriends, ex-wives, ex-in-laws, etc.? Every guy with an ex. All of mine are. ;-)

    Although I do believe James is on to something in the grand scheme of things, I tend not to lend too much credence to the ex-husband.

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    1. I was just about to post something similar. He could just be expressing sour grapes about the situation. When something happens or becomes a family member, strange behavior can takeover, doesn't necessarily mean it's a sign of guilt. Just how some people cope with trauma.

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  14. Its kind of hard to believe that Fred would not even wake up until 10 am, and by 5 pm throwing a party. That sounds like a sour "ex family member" talking to be quite honest. However, Tim Carpenter could provide some extremely valuable insight into the family, but IMO he needs to put aside any anger and be forthright and truthful (not exaggerating, etc) when speaking to you James. For starters, he needs to provide some sort of proof (old letters, etc) regarding the family issues in order to gain some credibility. If he can become more credible, then perhaps he can be believed on issues where there is no proof. IMO.

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  15. Why would anyone say that about their daughter? As a parent you should hope for the best, not automatically assume the worst.

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  16. My husband had some serious issues with his family. Thing is, until I met him, and he started working through some of the issues of abuse from his past, if you'd have asked any of their family friends they would've told you they we're a good normal family. It's REALLY hard to say what's happening behind closed doors, everyone wants to put their best foot forward, and most of the time it's easier for the children to just either ignore it and carry on like normal, or to cut and run.
    In my husbands situation, he went from the ignoring it and acting like everything is fine, to not talking to or seeing his family for years. His situation could have been more similar to hers if he had the extenuating legal issues and such that Maura had- because while you can cut contact with your family, you do have to disappear to get rid of the rest of what she had crashing down around her.
    Honestly, I do hope she's out there, and figured out how to move past all of it, and maybe some day will be able to say 'yeah, I'm fine, you can all quit looking and guessing.' Only time will tell.

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