Sunday, December 14, 2014

Fred Murray Knew About Woodsville Sighting and Tried to Get Video Before Police


According to the new witness who came forward this week, saying she saw Maura with two friends at Butson's Supermarket an hour before she disappeared, Fred Murray has known about the sighting from the beginning. And he tried to get the video before the authorities could properly track it down.

I remember **** talking in the break room about Fred on how Fred was demanding camera footage of the store. **** told him there was none. Butson's didn't own cameras at that time. Fred totally flipped out, not sure if Fred was escorted out or left on his own. **** told us if anyone questions us while we were on clock to have them talk to him ****.
While Butson's did not have cameras, the bank branch inside the store did, and one of their cameras captured the aisle Maura and her friends walked down.

Fred took this tip very seriously. So why is it the first time anyone else has heard of it?

I think back to one of the first conversations I had with the woman who runs the Facebook page devoted to Maura's disappearance, Helena Dwyer-Murray. At the time I was trying to find a contact number for Sara Alfieri, one of Maura's friends, who partied with her the weekend before her disappearance. She told me that Sara would never talk to me or any other reporter, that she'd told the real story to Fred and was asked never to repeat it.

True to her word, when I finally did find Sara in Boston, the first thing she said to me was, "How did you find me?" before promptly slamming the door.

Kate Markopoulos, a NY resident, was also close to Maura and has been less than forthcoming about the details of those last few days. Members of the track team at UMass said she disappeared for several days around the time Maura went missing.

The cashier has also provided an important detail about the identity of one of the girls but I'll leave the cold case unit to use that as they will.

** One little fix. Sara did talk to a reporter. Once, shortly after the incident. When pressed for answers, she replied: "I don't want to get my friend in trouble."



26 comments:

  1. "I don't want to get my friend in trouble."

    Was it Maura or Kate Markopoulos she was talking about I wonder.

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  2. I believe that Maura's family and close friends know exactly where she is (alive or dead) and why. Pretty much everything about their statements and behavior thus far confirms this. Just my opinion...

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  3. They either know or they think they know. Neither or Maura's sisters has done any sort of media campaign or anything to find Maura is years. Her brother has been completely silent. Kate and Sara also refuse to help. The facebook page is run by a distant relative (the perfect patsy Helena Murray). On the tenth anniversary, on Fred did ONE interview where he mostly just bashed law enforcement.

    All this points to these people avoiding publicity because they do not want to answer any hard questions. Fred simply states that Maura's life before she went missing is "irrelevant" and then goes on to question the police work.

    None of the actions of Maura's friends or relatives are those of people who genuinely have no idea what happened to Maura and just want the mystery solved; they are the actions of people who want to be left alone so that they are not called out on all their inconsistent statements.

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  4. I had thought maybe Maura died later as a result of injuries, Recently in my town a man hit his head hard, went missing for a few days, and when he came home he was a wreck and had to have brain surgery and almost died. This made me think of Maura and that as a possibility. Maybe the friends hid the body because they were too drunk to realize it was a bad idea. BUT that doesn't make sense that fred would cover for them all these years.

    Simplest answer is that she was running from the boyfriend for some reason and didn't want to be found. Not necessarily the known boyfriend. The family puts up just enough of an appearance that they are looking for her just in case "he" is still looking.

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  5. Were any telephone or credit records checked on Kate or Sarah? One of them could have booked the hotel or condominium. Were any of the records checked at the Butson grocery store. Their refusal to speak all these years has always been questioned and I guess now we have the answer as to why. In light of this new information, it seems clear to me that all three of them were planning this trip and Maura either ran away or something happened to her after the two girls left. They may not have know that she was planning on runing away. If she ran away, there could have been another person she left with? Regardless,if the three of them were together in a hotel or condominium than Fred would have known this; since Sara told him the whole story. Why can any of them not be compelled to speak to the police? Or is this a piece of information they are withholding?

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  6. James, I just spoke with Helena Dwyer Murray via Facebook, she had this to say:

    "I have tried to not comment on Mr. Renner's blog since he is blocked from this site. That comment it true to the point where it is capitalized. I NEVER TOLD HIM THAT NOR DID SARA TELL ME THAT. There have been other instances where I have been misquoted on that blog. Leads me to question note taking."

    She was responding to this quote:

    "I think back to one of the first conversations I had with the woman who runs the Facebook page devoted to Maura's disappearance, Helena Dwyer-Murray. At the time I was trying to find a contact number for Sara Alfieri, one of Maura's friends, who partied with her the weekend before her disappearance. She told me that Sara would never talk to me or any other reporter, that she'd told the real story to Fred and WAS ASKED NEVER TO REPEAT IT."

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    1. All I did was post links to your three recent posts on the FB page and she deleted all of them. Then she writes me and say, "Mr. Krancher, there are many reasons your original post was not posted and your second attempt was hidden." The she posted that quote from your recent post and her reply to it.

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    2. So then, by Dwyer-Murray's own admission Sara did "tell the real story to Fred." Why is a distant relative who was never anywhere near the nucleus of this case running the facebook page? That right there is exceptionally sketchy to me. If my sister or daughter were missing I would be the one running the facebook page. Why do they have Helena, a woman who seemingly has no first-hand knowledge of this case, field any and all questions? My theory? It is precisely BECAUSE she has no knowledge that they insist she does it.

      The Murray family has what every single family of a missing person could possibly dream of and yet all they do is denigrate and avoid the people who are actually trying to find Maura.

      There can be only one reason for this: they know where she is and they do not want her found.

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    3. I agree Rose. This case has taken on a new clarity in the last couple of days. They know what happened to her.

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    4. Definitely fishy. If they were indeed so worried about Maura, then they would capitalize on the media to find her. This just tells me they know something about why Maura disappeared and it was probably something that would implicate them in a crime.

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  7. With this new information, if Kate and Sara picked up Maura at the crash site, then why has Fred continually been saying that a local "Dirt Bag" picked her up. Why is he not wanting this to come out. The police I'm sure know this. Is that why they haven't pursued somebody locally picking her up?There isv something deceptive with this.

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    1. Maybe whatever happened was an accident but somehow her friends could get blamed

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  8. I cannot wait until the day that James Renner is put in his place. When is happens You will all be speechless and run and hide.

    The truth will come out....BUT IT IS NOT WHAT RENNER IS SPOUTING..!

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    1. Hi.

      Just wondering what issues you have with James? Could you elaborate? As it stands you come off a bit as having some personal anger toward James that has either a lot to do with him or you in a personal context. Do you know him? Am I misreading that? I am just curious about what your issue with him is. Presumably it has something to do with this blog and Maura Murray. If so, how has it gotten so personal for you that you write such an angry message? Do you know the family? What is the issue that you have with James?

      ~ John Green

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    2. So are you saying that you know the truth, Mr. Incognito? Care to share it with us? No? Then go sit down somewhere.

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  9. Mr., it is apparent that you know the truth, so what is it? Let's hear it so everyone here can pack it up and return to their lives.....

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    1. I know enough after almost 11 years as I have been involved since the beginning to be able to state with confidence that "James Renner will do whatever it takes to sell his rag of a book."

      He will throw anyone under the bus with no proof....You could be next.

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    2. Hi.

      Following up on my last message, has he thrown you under the bus in some way? What happened? You said you have been around for 11 years. I have been watching James' blog since it first came out (and at once point wrote pieces for James on it). I don't remember your screen name. So you changed it. Who are you? What was your old screen name? Why don't you post under it anymore?

      ~ John Green

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  10. Mr. Green,

    Glad your posting man....always appreciated your point of view!

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    1. Hey thanks. I don't have much to say anymore. But I remain interested.

      ~ John Green

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    2. And more bullshit spewed by The Green machine.....LOL

      You guys are priceless.

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    3. I am glad you are here too Mr. Detective. I hope your shiny star is shiny today.

      Have a nice day and keep all the detective-level information coming.

      ~ John Orange

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    4. All the pertinent info I have previously written on this site has been removed by Renner. I will not waste My time again. But I do like to come see what lies Renner is spewing forth. It makes for a great laugh most of the time.

      Thanx........

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