Monday, January 12, 2015

A Stalker Returns *** UPDATED: TIES TO MAURA? ***


This is weird and disturbing and may or may not have to do with Maura Murray so I'm just going to lay it out there in chronological order:

Back in 2013, someone began sending me disturbing emails. I get a lot of threatening emails, but these were a little worse than usual.

Murray was a white trash ho.   Fucked the entire track team, including her "assistant track" coach (who is apparently now in Taiwan, putting that PhD of his to good use designing sneakers-I am sure it galled him to give up all of that  white, American, undergrad poontang, poor guy), and lord knows who else at UMASS and in the surrounding community. 
Something tells me she is still alive and the greek ho knows all of this.    It's a shame the cops can't water board her, 'cause requesting information from  her nicely doesn't seem to be getting the job done.

All these messages were coming in from clemens21r@aol.com

We tried to find out who was behind clemens21r@aol.com but he covered his tracks well. An IT guy backtracked his IP, only to discover he was using proxies and encrypting everything he did, online. All we could tell was that this same person had been put on a RIPE list in the Netherlands for some kind of illegal or threatening activity overseas.

Then I was contacted by a very frightened escort from New Jersey who sent me the screen caps of a conversation with a potential client (the images are above), who first used the clemens21r@aol.com email to communicate.

John Green did some digging and found that the emails were bouncing around a relay in an empty field in Wichita. Others traced the emails to Canada.

He went away for awhile. Then, last week, clemens21r@aol.com returned. "Look into Michelle Church," he said.

tee-hee!!!  Michelle Church holds the KEY to all!!!
P.S.  She is an adulterer ya know....ya might want to bring that up when you interview her...just sayin'!  ;)  Also, make sure to ask her what she did with that baby name book I gave to her! :)  Goodbye Jimbo.....I am off to masturbate while thinking of you.  ;)  tee-hee!: )

And this.

CHOO CHOO!!!  the Fuckbuddy Express is getting ready to chug right on through your town, Jimbo.
We learned today that this man goes by the name Douglas Morrison, from Whiting, NJ. Before that, he lived in Greenville, SC. I spoke to him on the phone. He admitted it.

I've had a lot of fun with you, Jimmy. It doesn't have to end.

For anyone saying I'm in this for the money, there are easier and safer ways to make a buck.

***UPDATE***
Some people have found a possible connection to UMass and West Point. I am attempting to verify this information.

59 comments:

  1. Do you think he knows anything? Like the truth about what happened to Maura? or is he just playing with you. Do the police have this information?

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  2. Well now that connection is interesting.

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  3. Huh ....

    I would say that Doug Morrisson is in for the worst all time experience of group thinking and group info scouring and group discussion in the history of the Maura Murray case ... which is saying something.

    Would not be surprised if there is more to learn about the identity of this Doug Morrison. I predict that he's posted under various handles. I also predict that he might have a relationship with some other people who've been hanging around the case.

    One final note: there used to be a poster from NC who asked to talk to me once. At first he seemed concerned, interested and informed. But after a while, he started dropping all these hints that he knew things which he could not substantiate. Then he said some strange things. Then I could not no longer reach him. James, I think you talked with this guy at one time too.

    ~ John Green

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  4. Very interesting.

    but did you mean to say Greenville SC. ?

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    1. I think the post has been edited and originally said NC, or I misread it. There is a Greenville NC and such a character did exist. But Greenville SC is even more interesting to me as it is not far from Asheville NC where I used to live. Even more interesting now that I have gotten some data back from some of the companies implicated in this attack on my email account. Turns out that from info I developed during clemens21's last appearance, that I was able to conclusively link clemens21 to this email scam that was run on me. I need to hear back from a few other companies, but - essentially - once I have what i need, I can hand the DA here in King County, WA a mostly completed case with my criminal complaint for harassment and privacy law violations. All they will have to do is get a subpoena to his service provider, which the service provider - not wanting any bad attention from being seen to protect a scamming scumbag - won't contest, just like Topix does not. At that point, old Doug is going to get a criminal summons and have to get himself a lawyer in Seattle. And if he decides to ignore it, his problem becomes interstate compacts that - in the digital age - in the blink of an eye, allow one state to issue warrants for arrest for failures to appear in another state. Sooo.... I'll be finding out a lot more old Dougy in the next couple months.

      ~ John Green

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    2. Greenville, North Carolina is an hour north of the Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, it is also home to Eastern Carolina University.

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  5. Could Maura have been hard up for cash and desperate to make some quick $$$?

    So she places an ad as an escort and this dude contacts her and makes her an offer she couldn't refuse?

    So she mapquests directions - and decides to meet up with this guy.

    And who knows? Maybe he hurt her? Maybe he's kept her captive?

    Just putting that out there. Seems like he's used this email address to try to lure girls into meeting him with the promises of $$$. So that just got me thinking.

    Maura was kinda desperate for money. She was fishing credit card information out of waste baskets. She might have made a bad decision during a hard time in her life.

    A decision her family wouldn't want advertised? Thus the secrecy?

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    1. Hi Perfect Palette,
      I think you made a very astute observation that's definitely worth considering. Here's the one thing I'm struggling with: if Maura did indeed get involved in the sex trade, I can certainly understand Fred being upset and ashamed. However, I find it incomprehensible that he wouldn't admit it after all this time. Parents who sincerely, desperately want their child found will hold nothing back, no matter how bad it looks.

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    2. If so, she couldn't have been doing it for very long or else the police would've found some evidence of her activity during the investigation. A phone number to her agency or pimp, a client's phone number, or digital trails leading to an agency website/email exchanges with clients. Maybe this was her first and last client?

      It seems like a longshot though. Usually if someone is escorting, they leave a pretty obvious trail.

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  6. Posts like this I ask myself: how did I end up on the weird part of the internet again?

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    1. She is a distance runner and Track coach at VMI ( Virginia Military Institute). The reference seems to be a track and field military connection.

      http://www.vmikeydets.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9800&ATCLID=205697675

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  8. J ames, I hope you have contacted LE both NH and in Greenville

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  9. Did the plrostitute ever meet up with this guy? Maybe she can id him.
    Also, can you elaborate on your conversation with this guy?

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  11. http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20141475,00.html
    Perfect Palett, your theory reminds me of the case linked above. College student, needs some money and a new car, becomes an escort and ends up murdered by her john. it would explain some of the secrecy before and after Maura went missing.

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  12. I think the better question is "who is michelle wirth"

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  13. @James Renner,

    How did the NJ prostitute know to contact you about someone using the clemens21r@aol.com email address?

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    1. FWIW if you google that email address, Renner's post about disturbing emails from the account in 2013 is the first thing that pops up.

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  14. James....look into resident on Gateway off of Valley rd. Haverhill NH

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    1. How about you just tell us what you know that we do not know?

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    2. Hey Rose.......I do not throw people under the bus. This is info to work with. If You do not like it, do not read or comment.

      Thank You

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    3. For real.

      This cryptic kinda "I know something you don't know" bullshit is tiresome.

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    4. I agree it is tiresome. This has been going on here for years. Someone desperate for attention gets on here and claims to know something about the case and drops little cryptic hints. Miss Understood thinks she is original, but they all do it the same way: they know something material about the case but they cannot tell us what it is. But we should trust them that they know this thing, and that they are therefore "insiders" and "special". But of course they cannot possibly tell us what it is. Even though they know about something as serious as a missing human being, they can never just TELL what they know. It is so obnoxious. I am sick of these jerks messing around with something so serious.

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  15. I definitely have thought about the escort angle before and can see it.

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  16. How about the connection to Woodsville/ haverhill NH. Douglas is connected to a prostitution ring whose Big Boss is from Haverhill NH and Mass.

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  17. Ok, so it's been over a decade. Can we have a timeline put together again which includes only factual information? Then can we also have additional details, that have no official record, placed in red or whatever? Then, can that be a sticky on the front page to help ensure we are all on the same page and working towards a resolution? I'm brand new to this intriguing case, but I can clearly see a vast difference in opinions by many. Do we want to solve this or do we want to discuss it? That is the question. I say we should solve it. So can someone with the cold facts break it down into a timeline with dates/times on the far left(local eastern time) and the information indented? Then also have the ability to post comments to each section of that timeline? Or is that only imaginable? I only ask because I don't know how that is done, but I think it will help to organize a bunch of folks who are interested in helping.

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    1. Hi Cody.

      I have such a timeline. It is very detailed. It was posted here about a year and a half ago, but has since been taken down. I am in the process of adding some new insight and facts to it. It concerns only the "five strange days" not the entirety of the case. When it is completed in its latest version, I will be happy to send it to you or anyone else, although that might be a while. Just drop me a line at john888green@logic2020.com

      John

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    2. I have one Cody. It was posted here 2 years ago. I am revising it. Might not be done for a few weeks, as there is a lot to add. It deals only with the five strange days+ (i.e., no time before Thursday night) or after the week of the accident. When the latest version is completed, I will be happy to send to you or anyone for comment, addition, criticism, suggestion, whatever. Email me john888green@gmail.com

      John

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  18. Can anyone tell me who Michelle Church is? Was she a friend of Maura's or something? I can't remember who Michelle Church is.

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  19. This could be an interesting Ask to watch...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2stvfh/people_who_chose_to_disappear_just_to_get_away/

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  20. Do y'all remember that article that came out about the phone call between maura and Kathleen about Kathleen's relationship issues? Could Kathleen's fiancé have slept with Maura or something? Could this have attributed to Maura's breakdown hours later?

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  21. I've been mulling the coed escort theory for a while and even mentioned it in a previous posting many moons ago, however I am reluctant to believe it.....

    I am reconsidering the impetus behind the money that FM brought (or supposedly brought) to MM for a newer car.

    Would a father go from ATM to ATM getting the max withdrawal amount just to help his daughter to get a newer junker when hers was obviously in working condition?

    The more I think about it the more it sounds like an emergent need for money that he is then bringing to MM for.................. (fill in the blank).

    Any thoughts?

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    1. Just to add to that, If they did find a car for her as has been mentioned then why not leave the 4k as a deposit and either come back the following week or put the balance on credit card.

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    2. I think that Maura told her father she needed it for a lawyer and that perhaps he borrowed the money from someone.

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    3. So why did Maura need the money for a lawyer?

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    4. I do not think she did; I think perhaps she TOLD her father that she did.

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  22. I've been mulling the coed escort theory for a while and even mentioned it in a previous posting many moons ago, however I am reluctant to believe it.....

    I am reconsidering the impetus behind the money that FM brought (or supposedly brought) to MM for a newer car.

    Would a father go from ATM to ATM getting the max withdrawal amount just to help his daughter to get a newer junker when hers was obviously in working condition?

    The more I think about it the more it sounds like an emergent need for money that he is then bringing to MM for.................. (fill in the blank).

    Any thoughts?

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  23. I can't tell if my computer is messing up or if the messages are being approved.

    I've been mulling the coed escort theory for a while and even mentioned it in a previous posting many moons ago, however I am reluctant to believe it.....

    I am reconsidering the impetus behind the money that FM brought (or supposedly brought) to MM for a newer car.

    Would a father go from ATM to ATM getting the max withdrawal amount just to help his daughter to get a newer junker when hers was obviously in working condition?

    The more I think about it the more it sounds like an emergent need for money that he is then bringing to MM for.................. (fill in the blank).

    Any thoughts?

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  24. Drug Debt? Gambling debt? Abortion? Payoff to keep somebody quiet? Money to flee country? The possibilities are endless.

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  25. The presidential primary in NH that year was January 27. The weekend before that would have been a huge weekend for prostitutes, maybe they went to make some quick cash and made a bad connection. It was only 2 weeks before she went missing after all.

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  26. Has the Wild Ammonoosuc river been checked at all? It's along the road that Maura was last seen on and I hadn't seen anything that says the river has been checked. And I've been up in that area before--I believe it runs pretty far. Can anyone answer this for me? Just curious.

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    1. YES....The river and the banks were checked for miles in both directions.

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  27. Ugghh! This case is so frustrating! I tell you what, Kate & Sara need to be held more accountable. If they're lying about the party, then they need to face some heat for it. Why did Maura & people around her lie so much?What for?? They're very committed to these lies too. No one has wavered. They have to be hiding something very serious. It would have to be for good reason. Although, Maura told more than her fair share of lies... maybe it was no problem for her to live one.

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    1. Everyone closely associated with this case is a liar. It is really too bad that people cannot change their character even when something so serious is at stake.

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    2. I just throw this out there. I am not being critical of James. But your comment Rose made me recognize a possible short coming in my own thinking. Much of the lens we all have on this case is Renner and, back in the day, Topix. Topix was a hot mess of disinformation. Renner is a journalist, but only one guy. I think that whenever one observes the universe spinning around a teacup, one has to pause and ask the question, am I buying too much into my own perspective. I did that as soon as I read your comment. Everyone is a liar. Everyone is hiding info. Kata, Sara, Liz, Fred, Ruddock, the two driver I talked to, Julie, Billy, Sharon ... Is there a possibility that we are wheeling the universe around our own perspective, given the narrow lens we all have on the car? I accuse nobody of that. I simply say that your comment gave me pause.

      ~ John Green

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    3. Sorry I did not really follow. (no sarcasm - I really did not follow)

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    4. I see what you're saying John. Most information available on this case doesn't go beyond a simple timeline of events. This blog is probably the most in depth & the most current, hence the only perspective of the case we see right now. If I were to start a blog, it may take the case a completely different direction... a different perspective.

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    6. I wonder if smiths parents were home the night maura disappeared.if they were away perhaps their house would be an ideal place to take a young girl.....just a thought

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    9. James is there any way to check this out?could explain a lot

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  28. Hi I find a connection with the clemen21 aol account. It belongs to a 31 yr male from Goffstown, NH. the male also works in a sports related industry which would make sense for the use of clemens name. Doesnt it put this male same age as Maura as well?

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  29. Escorts leave HUGE trails. From the ads placed online, to the text/calls between clients. There is no way to hide that unless she had a second phone. And NO escort will agree to see a man for a WEEK.

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