Wednesday, July 1, 2015

More on that Back Lake sighting


I really like this new sighting from the Back Lake area of Pittsburg, NH.

The witness was about 10 when this occurred so the event was probably not fully understood. What he remembered was that this woman showed up, looking for a place to hide from a couple men. He believes, after seeing Maura Murray's photo, that it was her. He says his aunt believes it was her as well, though I am still hoping to speak to the aunt directly.

There are a number of cheap rental lodges around Back Lake. And they are open for business in February.

Is it possible Maura was staying at one of these lodges for a bit?

Did somebody come looking for her, causing her to have to wait to return to the lodge until they were gone?

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  1. Could she have been referring to the police? Maybe she sensed they were on her trail and she needed a place to hideout. Maybe her father knew where to look for her and she was hiding from him. It'd be interesting if they could recall what she was wearing.

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  2. Why did Aunt let Maura in the house if Maura was being chased? Did Aunt wonder if Maura was a fugitive or on the run from drug dealers? Most people in that situation would be concerned for their safety and their child, right?

    Or is there more to this story? Was Aunt a friend or coworker of Maura's?

    Maybe a nurse that Maura had worked with? Was this sighting actually part of Maura's escape plan?

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    1. When you live in the country, in rural areas that have low population, you really don't think everyone out there is a criminal. Think about it. If an area is mainly summer and vacation homes (such as where I live), if someone is wanted by the law or by a drug dealer, why not break into one of those empty houses to hide? You have less of a chance of being caught. If a young lady knocked on my door, If I felt that person was a decent person I would let them in and not feel scared for my safety. Again, the northeast is filled with hospitable folks.

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    2. I agree. It would not seem strange for someone to let her in to stay a bit in a small town. It is not the norm but it happens in the country.

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    3. Incorrect. I live in a small town in New Hampshire, about an hour from where she went missing, and I can assure you that people who live in small towns are there because they enjoy solitude. If someone comes and knocks on my door and asks to stay I would call the police, not let them in. No way.

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  3. I find this rather difficult to believe. One would think that the first logical maneuver when someone shows up at your door saying they are being pursued is to call the police.

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    1. If this was any place except Pittsburg, NH I might agree with you, but this is an extremely rural area. Winter population is very low, especially on the lakes. New England hospitality might seem cliche to some, but it really exists. If the Aunt was not an alarmist and Maura appeared harmless, I can easily see the Aunt taking her in, offering her a warm drink, some food and leaving Maura alone to sort her mess without prying questions or over reacting to a stranger showing up at her door. If the Aunt was a year-round resident she most likely knew the Chief of police or an officer and knew she could have someone there if needed. Although Pittsburg is the largest NH municipality, it is the least populated. The idea of fugitives and drug dealers, especially 11 years ago, would have been way down on the list of reasons this girl may have been in trouble. Additionally, as a resident of extreme Northern New Hampshire, she likely had at least one gun and knew how to use it if she really felt threatened. So, for me, not difficult to believe at all.

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  4. If it was Maura and she was with people aka dirt bag and she slipped away then she most likely would have asked to call the police.

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  5. Could this be where Maura was heading, if this was her. It'll be interesting to see what the aunt remembers about this woman.
    If it was Maura, and she said she was running from men , I believe she was talking about the ones in her life and maybe the police. I wonder if anyone still lives around there that lived there in Feb. 2004 and if so do they remember her?
    Did the aunt not here about Maura being missing? Did this woman ask her please not to tell anyone? If this woman talked to the aunt about what was going on and why she was running maybe she can remember some specifics that no one else knows except Maura., so it can be narrowed down to whether this was most likely Maura or not.
    Hopefully the aunt will speak to you soon.

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  6. Tall timber lodge is located on this lake. I have been there before so i am somewhat familiar with it. There are numerous cottages as well as a restaurant. This is a very small lake that is mostly surrounded by small summer camps. tall Timber lodge is a fairly known nice place for those that know that neck of the woods.

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  7. (Tall timber lodge) It looks like the same owners are in place that took over in 1982. Doubtful that they would have records dating back to 2004 but maybe worth a shot if this is a credible (possible) sighting.

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  8. Was there ever an extensive search done in that area after she went missing? I'd sonar the hell out of that lake.

    I also have suspicion her disappearance is related to the Maitland case in Vermont.

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  9. James,

    Did the aunt or nephew notify LE anytime after the incident or is contacting you the very first mention? If the contacted LE when?

    Thanks

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  10. If you investigate another missing person, would you consider Tabitha Tuders? I'm from Nashville, and her disappearance has never been solved.

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  11. James - any update on the documentary?

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  12. This is interesting as a lead. I have been thinking about it and the various possible outcomes - if anyone has additional thoughts, please feel free to add them...
    First scenario - it wasn't Maura. This may be easy to identify if the Aunt called the police - anyone answering the call may have the information needed.
    Second Scenario - it was Maura. Then this leads to the next question; she was fleeing, did the Aunt offer to call the police?
    Answer 1 - Maura says yes; the aunt calls; there is an outcome (possible she gives fake names, goes on where she was headed safely) - there may be a police report available
    Answer 2 - Maura says yes. Being a rural area the aunt may wait until morning to call as she knows the office is not manned over night. Come morning, Maura is gone.
    Answer 3 - Maura says no. If she said no, the aunt may have assumed she was fleeing an abusive relationship and simply offered the help she could. Maura may have said no because she was fleeing the police and her father and/or fiancee, fleeing an incident back at school (credit card stuff), fleeing whatever the phone call was about when she left work early - still don't think that answer is uncovered yet - or any other possibility. Why she wandered into that rural area is another mystery but if it was her, it tends to rule out her willingly meeting up with someone else after her car accident. It also makes really me wonder what exactly is in that case file that is sealed by NH state police - is there any indications of a possible threat she was running from...?

    As an afterthought and perhaps a little more of a "wild theory", I never read "Without Peril", but I heard it was one of her favorite books and is similar to her case file or relates to the area. In that book, is there a situation where a character is running from male captors or threats? Is it possible Maura had some sort of break with all the pressure in her life and was imagining she was the character in the book? I don't think so as her packing her stuff for easy pick-up, planning a week away and not being missed (tells professors death in family so they don't inquire about her absence; tells friends there is not so they do not call to offer condolences, etc) seems to suggest a planned disappearance, but you never know....

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    1. Re: Not Without Peril, there is no such situation. It's a book with stories about people encountering life threatening conditions on a specific mountain range.

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  13. I agree with Bill H., I do not find the described situation unlikely. Living just around that corner where Maura disappeared from, if a young female visibly scared showed up on my doorstep, I do not think that my first reaction would have been to call LE. Pittsburg is a good 2 hours distance away and the search mostly was around the area where Maura disappeared from. It is also important to keep in mind that Butson's sighting with 2 other girls out of state buying booze was reported, however it did not become public knowledge for many years. It is possible that this sighting was also reported later but did not became known for quite some time. Folks were not quite as suspicious in the rarely populated areas years ago as they might be now. A lot has changed. But I do wonder about the other 2 girls Maura was with-if this sighting is going to hold to be true.

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  14. James - I think Maura was alcoholic and prone to trouble. If she is living under a different identity, I wonder how she has stayed out of trouble. She literally could not stop getting into drunk driving accidents.

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    1. This girl wasn't just drinking she was getting blackout drunk and smashing cars! That's someone who is spirling out of control and refusing to get help bc she doesn't want help! Also who needs a break from school after a month break for winter break in Dec!?

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  15. Can't say I believe this might be Maura.

    I think it's likely once she was picked up after her accident, her demise occurred rather quickly.

    Still think a creep posing as a helpful motorist lured her for a ride, to his house and ultimately to her death.

    I do think Maura driving in tandem is a possibility, despite her circle being unaware. Especially if this was supposed to be a secretive trip.

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  16. Are the ATM and crash\crime scene photos available?

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    1. The car yes after the accident, I don't believe there are any crash scene photos, why they didn't take any is weird, whats it cost if its a false alarm $10.00 ?

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  17. The people that say she was there were they willing to sign affidavits, the normal procedure ?

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  18. Did anyone divulge how long this individual stayed with them in the cabin in back lake? Did she leave anything there, since it an enclosed space maybe bring in a tracker dog with Mauras scent to make sure its legit. Was the Aunt and the child(now 21) willing to sign a disclosure? That will tell you they are serious.

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  19. Maybe the Londonderry Ping is asociated with back lake and not Bartlett, that should narrow the search a little bit ;-)

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  20. I think a more interesting place to look for her body, is possibly the Maurys old residence in Hanson, only if the tandem driver was her father, brilliant if you think about it no one would ever think his yard. He had no alibi and he had enough time to drive to Haverhill bring her back to his home in Hanson or Conneticut, they get into a dispute and she dies there he buries her there. That scenario works.

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