Tuesday, October 6, 2015

Kathleen Murray Gave Reason for Maura's Trip to New Hampshire in Early Interview

Below is an excerpt from New Hampshire Sunday News (Oct, 2007)

The source of her distress, Maura told the supervisor, was a phone conversation with Murray's sister.  
Since married, Kathleen Carpenter remembers finishing a phone call with Maura at about 10:20 the night of Feb. 5, but doesn't recall talking with her sister in the early-morning hours. Kathleen, who said she had talked about troubles with her husband-to-be during the nighttime conversation with Maura, said her sister didn't seem upset.  
But, she added, Maura and Billy were having relationship troubles at the time. Kathleen said she takes sleeping pills at night and didn't remember a later call.  
She believes her sister went to the White Mountains to sort out her troubles with Billy.  
"I think it was stress. I don't know what her and her boyfriend were going through," Carpenter said. "I kind of think that might have triggered it. They weren't getting along at that time. 
Also in the article is this quote from Sharon Rausch:

She said Billy was upset after arriving from Fort Sill, Okla., where he was stationed. 
"Fred arrived in Haverhill early Wednesday. We arrived Wednesday around 7 p.m. They interviewed Billy. He was a prime suspect. He was totally distraught. I'll never forget the look on his face. He said 'I feel as dirty as Scott Peterson. They think I've got something to do with it.'" Rausch said.

And this:

Maura picked up the accident report forms from the Hadley crash and was going to go over them with her father the night she disappeared. Two copies were left behind in the Saturn. 
"She was supposed to call me at 8 that night so I could help her go over them on the phone. She did pick up the accident reports. She had every intention of calling me," Murray said. Murray doesn't believe his daughter could have been pregnant. "No, she was on birth control pills," he said. 

38 comments:

  1. Did Billy have an alibi, people can fly in and out ? It sounds like a "love triangle-type" disappearance, certainly not extravagant as most theories, but it certainly has happened quite commonly actually.

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  2. 'I feel as dirty as Scott Peterson. They think I've got something to do with it.'" Rausch said.

    I find this statement odd in a couple of ways

    1) The first thing comes to mind is why he feels like a suspect if he was in Oklahoma at the time she disappeared

    2) The second thing that comes to mind is that he seems more concerned with how he perceived by LE.than finding out where his girlfriend might be.

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    1. I think it's odd more in his comparison with Scott Peterson, not just your garden variety criminal. A particular sort of evil that murdered his pregnant wife, sitting on death row as we speak. I do not like the direction this new info seems to be leading.

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    2. His reference to Scott could also have been about the timing of everything. Scott Peterson was the biggest story of the day at the time.

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  3. Maura was a pathological liar and a proven thief, why should we accept hearsay on someone else's end? Maura could have faked the duress just to go get drunk that night

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    1. or faked duress to give her time to "relocate" a Vasi damaged Saturn, out of sight.

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  4. Kathleen says "she thinks her sister went to the White Mountains to sort out her troubles With Billy."
    1. Was Maura running away from Billy?
    2. Could Maura of been meeting up with Billy, to discuss there issues?
    She said her and Maura spoke regularly about "regular stuff" and " getting through the day to day kind of things." I think if anyone knew what was going on with Maura, it was most likely Kathleen.
    In the disappeared show Billy, Sharon, and Fred acted like Maura and Billy were on track to get engaged and married very soon. When Kathleen's statements contradict that.
    The phone call to Billy on Thursday Feb 5 at 12:07 was rarely spoke about. Which was the night Maura had a major breakdown at work. It's made out like their relationship was solid, when it looks like it was the opposite. The e-mail that was on top of Maura's packed boxes about Billy. Billy cheating on Maura with one of Julie's friends. Seems there was problems in the relationship.
    Thought family and friends didn't know why Maura would be heading to the White Mountains but here Kathleen states she believes it was to sort out her relationship with Billy.
    Kathleen said she had called Maura because she had a monstarious fight with her "fiancée" that night. Perhaps it's the other Way around and really it was about Maura having a fight with Billy.
    Sharon says when they arrived Billy was interviewed and was a prime suspect. She'll never forget the look on his face. " He said I feel as dirty as Scott Peterson". They think I've got something to do with it. " I know they look at boyfriends/ husbands but Billy was in Fort Sill, Oklahoma apparently, seems they should of been able to clear him pretty quickly, instead Sharon says he was a prime suspect .
    How many copies of the accident report do you get? Isn't it 3, if so that's odd there was only two found in the car.
    Fred says " Maura was suppose to call him at 8 pm to go over the accident reports."
    Maura did not call him and he did not try and call her. Instead Fred's phone goes silent until the next morning. What time was Fred's last phone call on Monday Feb 9,2004?
    Fighting with Billy, whatever else was going on with Maura, wrecked dad's car, breakdown at work, boxes packed, possibly pregnant, possible drinking problem and then just disappeared .

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    1. I agree the call was closer to the time of her breakdown, she also said "my sister", does that mean Billy had an affair with Mauras sister, that would send me in a breakdown for sure.

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  5. It sounds like Maura went to clear her head and got picked up by another vehicle. When she crashed the car, she panicked, which forced her into an impulsive decision. An impulsive decision that probably cost her her life.

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  6. A recent posting here carried the header "New Info Will Not Be Released At This Time." Now, we see headers that refer to an "early interview" and to "long lost articles." I don't like to sound cynical, but I can't help thinking that this presumably unintended juxtaposition, this investigative tail-chasing, says a lot about just how much new and significant evidence has emerged in all the intervening years's since Miss Murray's disappearance..

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  7. This is a snippet from a post (on this blog) about Rick Graves the man that helped Fred search every weekend and ran Mauras Credit cards and social security numbers.

    Kathleen says " He personally went through Maura's stuff when it was stored in Tim's basement. He found some notes in her pockets. One of them was about Billy cheating on her."

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    1. Didn't UMASS police say there was an e- mail about Billy's cheating on top of Maura's packed boxes in her dorm room?
      Could it be Billy had cheated on Maura with one of her friends and not Julie's friend?
      Perhaps Kathleen's conversation with Maura on Feb. 5 was about Billy's cheating too and not just the fight with her Fiancée.

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    2. Scarinza said it, not sure about UMass police, also an investigator round it in one of Maures pockets an investigator Fred hired.

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  8. Wow James. I'm really reading between the lines, thinking about why you're choosing to post each specific excerpt, and I have a pretty clear idea about what the new information you received is about....and it's pretty shocking. Even though you can't tell us the details, thank you so much for posting these...and please keep them coming! Fingers crossed for a break in the case.

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    1. I think it has something to do with Billy R.

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    2. Could he have been there at the time of the disappearance? Looks to be a loooong 25 hour drive from OKC to Haverhill, but wouldn't leave the trail of a plane ticket, only gas/hotel receipts. Pay cash and there are no receipts.

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    3. Anon, I couldn't agree more!

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    4. its not the first time its been attempted, he would know her schedule

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  9. Wonder if Billy was visiting in town for the LE to think him a strong suspect.

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    1. Exactly what I was wondering. Perhaps he was the male that walked Maura and Kate out the night of the Sara's Party. Maybe that's why she can't remember anything about this male.
      Wonder what type of vehicle Billy had, and what state he purchased it in.

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    2. Or if it was borrowed from a friend or family, they questioned Billy for hours, l' je had a solid alibi he wouldnt have been questioned for hours.

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  10. Sounds like she's just an unstable person who got pregnant with a casual partner or by billy, and she wanted to end things with him so the pregnancy was distressing.

    That would cause an unstable person to do something drastic.

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    1. One, birth control pills are not 100% effective even when taken correctly. Two, though it sounds simple, it is actually not easy to take a pill at the same time every single day. Sometimes doses get missed, which further reduces the efficacy of the pills. Given all the stress or in Maura's life at the time, and her apparent drinking problem, I would not be at all surprised if she missed doses and wound up pregnant. She did do the Internet research on the effects of alcohol on a fetus. If I recall correctly, somewhere on this blog or in an interview, Scarinza said LE believe Maura was pregnant when she disappeared. I do not recall however whether that was a direct quote. In any event, the fact that Fred said she was on birth control is meaningless.

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    2. She was proven to be Bulimic. When you throw up Birth Control pills, they tend to not work.

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    3. Bulimia is selctive in the "meals" you want to throw up, just as selective as not taking them to begin with. Just because you have bulimia doesn't mean you throw up everthing uncontrollably or no medication would work at all.

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    4. I honestly don't know how they jumped to that conclusion, she also loves kids, so maybe she went away to have the child.

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  11. 90% of the time it is a spouse or relation, the police at first thought it was him.

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  12. Just a thought: if Maura is alive..
    Perhaps Maura was running from Billy. And Fred knows this. To protect Maura, he doesn't want Billy to know this. Why would you act and say Maura had a perfect life, and had getting married to Billy to look forward to. When its obvious they were having relationship issues. They had broken up in 03 for sometime. Kathleen says they were not getting along at that time, Hossein says he got the feeling Billy was controlling and wanted to help her get away from him, and I believe one of her friends stated she wasn't looking forward to moving to Oklahoma Hossein States he wanted to help Maura get away from Billy. Could Hossein of helped Maura run away? He said he wanted to help her get away from Billy?

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  13. i just want to quickly comment on the birth control pills. i've heard a handful of stories of women who got pregnant while on the pill because there are some things that can decrease its effectiveness like going on antibiotics. so i wouldn't automatically assume there's no possibility she could've been pregnant

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    1. I'll back this up for you - I have a nine year old daughter that is proof that birth control pills are not always effective....

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    2. I have two kids that prove you can get pregnant on BC! Only thing that is 100% is abstinence , to quote my high school health teacher:)

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    3. ...or they don't take it and say they did.

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    1. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea. In college my roommate was cheating on her boyfriend who lived about 12 hours away. One night, without warning, the boyfriend drove to campus to try and catch her in the act (it worked). Oklahoma may be twice the distance, but we're talking about a West Point graduate here - not just some dude off the street. He'd have been through many more challenging activities than making the drive to NH in his life.

      In Maura's last known email, she explained that she hadn't answered his call(s) because she didn't feel like talking to anyone. Maybe Billy was already on his way to UMASS when that email was sent - maybe her refusal to take his calls pushed him over the edge.

      Obviously this is total speculation. I'm really just saying it's not that wild of an idea that Billy was there. Jealousy can make people do pretty much anything and if Hossein Bogdhadi is to be believed, Billy was a very controlling person.

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  15. According to his mom Billy said "I feel as dirty as Scott Peterson" Scott Peterson killed his pregnant wife. Why would Billy choose Scott Peterson as his analogy in that comment? Our brains choose our words in a split second before we speak.

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    1. Scott Peterson did not go on trial until June 2004 and was convicted in Nov 2004. I am sure if Billy had the gift of foresight he may have chosen his words more carefully. Hindsight is 20/20.

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