Saturday, December 5, 2015

Rumor is Not True

A rumor popped up online a while back, suggesting that the owner of Reliance Auto - whom Maura Murray called on the Saturday before she disappeared - was also Petrit Vasi's landlord. I'm in communication with the owner. This is not true. He did not know Petrit.


43 comments:

  1. Why did Maura call A-Reliance auto on Saturday...?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Good question.

      Also, James, how did you verify that the info you got from the owner is accurate? Given the strange reticence and outright deception among people peripheral to this case, as in many cases reported by you (e.g., Fred, Kate, Sara, Officer Ruddock, the 2nd tow driver), I think verifying this lack of connection is important, although proving a negative is a challenge.

      Delete
    2. Appears she/they were looking for a car afterall huh? Or looking to get something repaired on hers?? She may have called for a quote on a particular repair and/or part.

      Delete
    3. "... how did you verify that the info you got from the owner is accurate?"

      That's the first thing I thought. Verify through a secondary source then report back here.

      Delete
    4. Mr. Big, If we looked hard enough, doubtless we could find another case where a young lady went off a rural road, interacted briefly with a witness, and thereafter disappeared in a short timespan before police arrived, ultimately to meet her end at the hands of a random serial killer.

      Delete
  2. Thanks for clearing that up.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Did the police ever speak with the owner/ workers of Reliance Auto to see if they remembered Maura calling that Sat. Feb. 7?

    ReplyDelete
  4. I have researched beyond belief and I've never once read that, where & when did that rumor begin?

    ReplyDelete
  5. Did he know Maura, Fred, Sara, or Kate? Did Reliance Auto sell cars or fix cars?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. My guess would be - maura obtained a damage repair estimate from Reliance Auto in the amount of $4000. If her saturn hit Vasi -she would want the damage repaired asap. THAT would explain the "random" $4000 amount AND the intesity of FM to get her the money. Get the car fixed before the investigation & of the hit&run.

      Delete
    2. "Get the car fixed ..."

      I'd dump the car and buy well outside the area.

      Delete
    3. @TheMJWarren It also explains why the $4,000 payment would have been made in cash, not by check, in order avoid leaving a paper trail.

      Delete
    4. @TheMJWarren - why wouldn't the urgency be because Maura needed reliable transport to her clinicals, lest she be kicked out of the nursing program?

      Delete
    5. I think Maura had bigger fish to fry at that time than transportation to clinicals. That $4000 amount has always gnawed at me. Generally when people lie ~ part of the lie is the truth. Fred said the $4k was to buy a used car.... half true, Fred. $4000 was the damage estimate from Reliance TO repair the car. So if thats the case, did they decide it was too risky to have it repaired in Amherst knowing garage MIGHT be on the look out for a car that had been in a hit&run? Sooooo they decide to dump it & make it look like an accident. ??? BTW, according to her phone records, MM had not made lodging reservations anywhere. Dump the car & go off w/ whoever was in tandem.

      Delete
    6. btw, my take on this ~ is no disrespect to FM. he is her father. most parents would do anything under the sun for their kids, right or wrong. No way am I passing judgment...

      Delete
  6. Did Maura have any tatoos or identifying marks? Something if someone saw it would know its her?

    ReplyDelete
  7. I asked on another thread. To me a plugged tailpipe is either suicide or someone trying to make it look that way. Maybe the carbon monoxide built up made her dizzy or crash the fresh air came in when she crashed plus adrenaline. Also the 2men obviously may have done it maybe they knew petit maybe she made peopke in organised crime angry with the fraud or maybe petrits fam is

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We don't know if her windows were down.

      Delete
    2. Supposedly when Maura's car was found the back window was cracked a little.
      If so, then the rag in the tailpipe wouldn't of been to commit suicide. All windows need to be closed to commit suicide from carbon monoxide.
      IMO, the rag was either to look like suicide or to look like a dirtbag took her.

      Delete
    3. Hi Allison.

      This is what I have learned from talking to several experts on cars, including one who worked within the part of GM that made Saturns. Years ago, it was true that a clogged tail pipe could stall a car or (in a very rare case, under the wrong combination of conditions) result in carbon monoxide poisoning. After the late 80s and early 90s, however, it was not really true anymore. Exhaust systems have valves now that will release the exhaust even if the tailpipe is clogged. That said, it could well be the case that a person nefariously inserting a rag into a tailpipe may not have known that it wont actually stall the car. It could also be the case that someone at the scene trying to "muddy the waters" (see James' entry about Lavoie's statement) may also not have known that.

      As for your ideas about crime and a possible connection to the Vasi hit ... I, like you, find that idea sensible on many fronts. Here is something to think about in that context.

      In the fall 2004 term (i.e., 6-7 months) after Maura goes missing, the authorities blew up a drug ring involving UMASS students, some of whom were operating out of Maura's dorm.) For me, if Maura were even peripherally involved in drug muling (which, it is known and documented happens among HS and college kids and, which it is known, occurs along the I-91 corridor in high volume) then possible explanations/theories emerge for some of the more puzzling aspects of the case, like the coincidental and hard to ignore timing of the Vasi hit, Officer Ruddock's weird reaction to James, the second tow driver's (i.e., who towed the Corolla from the hotel to the auto shop, not the one who towed it from the scene to the hotel, whose identity I still don't know) to me, James interpretation that Maura's friends seem to be "scared" and that Fred is not being completely forthcoming, and other things.

      Delete
    4. The car will not function properly with a rag in the tailpipe. The car is designed so the exhaust escapes the system. Once the system is blocked the car will cease to function in a short time period. The car will continue functioning for less than .25 miles.

      As a nursing student Maura would not use this as a way to attempt suicide. People who use their cars to commit suicide, do so in an enclosed space or with a way to have a good deal of exhaust come in to the car via a hose. The car was in the open air. This was not a suicide attempt by Maura.

      Delete
    5. Because Maura stuffed the rag in after she crashed in an attempt to later claim it us what caused the crash, not her drinking.

      Delete
    6. I agree with you it was not a suicide attempt, but what does a nursing student have anything to do with it? Nursing school does not = mechanic school. I believe (from the interviews that Fred has done) that both him and Maura had little to no knowledge in how cars operated. Fred stated that the car was running on 3 cylinders. Just youtube a video of a car running on 3 cylinders. It's undriveable. He also said it was smoking something fierce which suggests a blown head gasket. If he was even remotely knowledgeable in car engines, he would have been detailed that the car had a bad head gasket. Instead he was very vague. I believe the rag was an attempt to muddy the waters by someone who believed that blocking the exhaust would result in carbon monoxide buildup in the cabin. Unbelievable? Wannabe Jiffy Lubes makes millions of dollars off clueless people when they sell them phony services like brake flushes and radiator services for $70-100 a pop. Antifreeze = $15 at autozone and it takes 5 minutes to do a radiator flush......

      Delete
    7. I agree on suicide attempt. I also thank you for clarification that clogged tailpipe will hinder performance of car. I have heard, however, that the car can operate for much longer than eta you said even with a clogged tailpipe.

      Delete
    8. Thank you guys for that info. My next questions or train of thought would be not suicide because she had the window down a little. The guy who put it there didnt know the car would shut off, but if it were me and my car shut off id have a REAL hard time steering. Id maybe accidentally crash and maybe they were following in another car who knows. I love all the ideas here

      Delete
    9. Oh i forgot to say when the newer cars shut off the powersteering is sucky gone off awful so maybe thats why the crash in the bad road stuff and maybe she waa scared with them following behind her

      Delete
    10. I didn't know 6-7 months after Maura disappeared, a drug ring was busted and some of the individuals were in the same dormroom Maura lived in.
      I've often wondered if Maura was involved in something or knew about something that could be dangerous.

      Delete
  8. I wasn't sure which thread to put this on, so I will just stick this here. There is another case I follow, that of Natalee Holloway. She disappeared when I was pregnant with my oldest so I remember it all vividly. The primary person of interest in that case is Joran Van Der Sloot, a Dutchman who is now Ina Peruvian prison for the murder of Stefanie Flores. The reason I bring this up is because her family found out who Joran was only after he had murdered her, but before they found her body. For us in the US,it would seem unheard of for someone not to have known about that case, but that doesn't mean that internationally it was well known. So I guess what I am saying is that it is flawed logic to conclude that Maura couldn't have fled to another country because someone would've recognized her by now. There is a good chance that the majority of people she lives around, if indeed she began a new life, doesn't even know the story of Maura's disappearance.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I agree with the sentiment of your last sentence. There have been a few cases of well known US fugitives hiding in other countries for years going unrecognized. But what gets me in this case (and what I personally find improbable about her living abroad) is the logistics of it. She wasn't some mob-boss, or someone with connections. She was barely an adult. She was a broke college student. This was in the (recent) post-911 days where security was at it's highest. It wouldn't have been easy for her to get into another country....at all....and her funds were EXTREMELY limited. The thing most of the "wanted abroad" US criminals have is that they had high connections, and others are almost always heavily involved, and heftily paid off, to help along the way. The have a major reason (their freedom) to do this. I just don't see Maura turning up in some remote Mexican fishing village 10 years from now. Though that *would* be wonderful. It's so, so hard to go into another country without a paper trail of some sort. Even harder to sneak in, go undocumented, make an income, etc.

      Delete
    2. Perhaps she used a different identity. Maura, Kathleen, and Kate resembled each other. She could of used there identity to get in another country.
      People have ways of getting ids. In 02, I knew a guy, you gave him 50.00 and he would make you an I'd. Now adays its a little harder to make them but in 04 it wasn't.

      Delete
  9. @Truthseeker.

    Trolled.

    Dupeified.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Are you saying Truthseeker was trolled? How so?

      Delete
    2. @Joe. No. I've been trolled n dupeified by him.

      Delete
    3. What a crock of BULLSHIT. Hide behind that Anonymous name a spew the venom. LOL

      Delete
    4. Don't let 'em dupe ya Joe.

      Delete
  10. James......was hoping for a reply to My question above. Did you obtain any helpful info from that contact.?

    ReplyDelete
  11. heads up guys 12/11/15 unsolved mysteries is doing a new maura murray episode

    https://www.facebook.com/OfficialUnsolvedMysteries

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Wow great Anonymous..I thought they took Unsolved Mysteries off the air...

      Delete
  12. This case is going nowhere fast. The podcast guys should do whatever it takes to get Fred Murray, Kate, or Sarah to sit down for an interview and get to the bottom of what they know. Without this all I see is the same recycling of stories going nowhere

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I came on here to post the same thing. We are throwing spaghetti at the wall without hearing from Kate and Sarah. I wonder if they ever told the police what they knew, or if Sarah just told Fred. I wish there was a way to get them to say what they know but I do not think it will happen in this lifetime. Also even if they did talk, it might only give us half the story. They may know why Maura was heading north, but they might not know what happened after the accident.

      Delete
    2. I highly doubt anyone knows what happened in NH. They may know hat was supposed to happen, or a general gist, but I DOUBT they know why she vanished.

      Delete
  13. I think they know where she was going and why she was going but don't know what happened to her. They are keeping it secret to protect their image and the family's image.

    ReplyDelete