Saturday, January 30, 2016

Amherst Police Ordered to Explain Why Vasi Records Are Still Being Withheld

We just won round two.

The Public Records Division of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has just determined that the Amherst Police Department must provide more details about Petrit Vasi's hit-and-run.

From the report I received today:

"Accordingly, the Department is hereby ordered, within ten days, to provide Mr. Renner with a revised response that explains, with specificity, how information, other than information that would identify witnesses or complainants, may be withheld under Exemption due to an ongoing investigation."

29 comments:

  1. Congrats, James. Let's hope they provide a satisfying explanation.

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  2. Awesome... Perhaps seeing these records could lead to an answer on whether Maura or the Saturn hit Petrit.
    I still think its a high possibility Maura or someone using her car hit Petrit. It fits right into the timeline of events.
    12:07-12:14- Maura speaks with Billy on the phone, which they weren't suppose to be on there phones at work..
    12:20- Petrit is found in the road
    1:00 am- Maura has a breakdown at work- supervisor Karen explained it as a catonic state. Maura was escorted to her dormroom.
    It would explain Fred coming to town with 4,000, that he withdrew from 8 different ATMs,and his claim that Maura's car was running badly when it doesn't look like it was. It made it on a 2.5-3.5 hour trip to Haverhill, NH, friends said Maura didn't mention getting a new car, and didn't know her car was in bad shape.
    Fred said they met Kate sat night in a back parking lot. Which wasn't one of the two normal drop off/ pick up spots. Could this be because the Saturn was back there hidden?
    Maura's family and friends said she couldn't of hit Petrit because she was working and it didn't happen near her. When it actually happened very close to Maura. Less than a mile.
    Maura disappeared Mon. Feb 9 04, 4 days after the breakdown at work.

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  3. Good job, Mr Renner.

    There was an early media article published that stated Kate met Fred and Maura at ABC Friday night. She also supposedly had a junk car.

    I wonder if she ever borrowed Maura's car....

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  4. All this means is we get a more nuanced reason why the town won't share.

    Even if this inevitably leads to a release of case documents, then ...

    Expect This: Half a page of blacked-out redactions.

    Net: More tail-chasing.

    Still, ya gotta try. There may be a grain of a clue in that steaming alphabet soup.

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  5. I am a homicide det., former traffic investigator (important background for me when I see the saturn), and former patrol officer obviously. We rarely if ever are as secretive as this department seems to be with what in reality are case notes that should be made available in a redacted form. Also, they should have classified this a homicide or a major crime so they could have the best detectives on it.

    I have looked into this case quite a bit and helped out a colleague in the area whom was himself consulted by a detective working on the case and have my thoughts as to what has happened in this case. I think this case is and was not worked 100% properly but would love to know more about this case. I have my theory about the case but depending on what could have happened in this case could change the whole outlook in my eyes.

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    1. How does something get "classified as a homicide" when no-one died? For that matter, how does it get "classified as a major crime" when police have very little idea of just how Vasi received his injuries? There are plausible scenarios in which no crime at all was committed. (It's not uncommon, e.g., for a large truck to strike a pedestrian without the truck driver ever seeing the pedestrian or noticing the impact.)

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    2. Have you seen the pics of the car? In your opinion, what could have caused the damage?

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    3. Lovecraftian, I was speaking about Muara's disappearance. It should have been classified as a possible homicide after about 7 days so a homicide detective could have taken over, or a major crimes detective although I don't think that department has a major crimes. Usually those are the most experienced detectives and from what I hear, the person who ran the initial few weeks had never had a case nearly so big

      Killadff, yes I have. My initial assessment without seeing the actual scene photos from that night (not sure they ever did them) would leave me to believe she had two separate impacts at different times. The damage just above the front bumper on her hood is very localized. Granted by the looks of the bumper she did make initial impact with something (I think possibly the snow bank from the opposite side of the road) on that side. But being so localized it would suggest to me something made direct impact on that spot of the car. That separate event could have also cracked the bumper too, making it dislodge that much easier when she went off the road. Judging by one pic I have seen there also seems to be a bit of bowing on the passenger side too, when would suggest when she came off the road a top down impact. Maybe the light caused the localized damage but I doubt it, there doesn't seem to be enough damage to the light. Professionally I would suggest she hit something else with the front left side of her car at another point in time that weakened the structural capacity of that side of the bumper and left a dent on the hood. Although again, with no proof or no pics of the full accident scene time of collision, it's speculation

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    4. The latest statements from NH authorities do describe MM's case as "a potential homicide. It may be a missing-persons case, but it's being handled as a criminal investigation". (Senior Asst. Atty. Gen. Strelzin) I don't know at what point that determination was made. In terms of evidence-gathering, especially physical evidence, the first few hours and days after an incident are the crucial period. We can argue over what should and shouldn't have happened then, but we can't go back in time. It's easy to say with benefit of hindsight that a thorough investigation should have been mounted more speedily, but if state and local police mounted that level of investigation every time a young person is missing a few hours, they could never do anything else. The big "known unknown" here is just how much and what kind of evidence are NH authorities keeping secret? I think it's safe to assume that an asst. atty. general doesn't use terms like "potential homicide" without some specific evidence in that direction, but I haven't seen any plausible suggestions as to just what kind of evidence that might be.

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  6. Seems the only legitimate reason is "they don't want to."

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  7. I am a formally educated/professionally trained social worker, so please read what I'm about to say, knowing such.

    Maura was beginning to experience the consequences of her continuous distorted judgement, questionable decision making and, arguably, MAJOR character flaws..... There is a saying too cliche that I won't repeat it. However, I believe It would be a good bet that her two closest known friends at UMass were drawn to her and she to them for good reason.

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    1. would not doubt it for a minute, Kassandra.

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    2. MJ I appreciate your comments. I have read many of them.

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    3. Kassandra, at what point in your professional training where you instructed to diagnose a condition that you are not trained to diagnose?

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    4. Killadff, I did not diagnose any condition in my comment. So you can back off now.

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    5. Killadff, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the word "diagnosis" prior to questioning people that have not made a diagnosis. Also, licensed social workers at the Master's Degree level ARE trained to make psychological diagnoses based on full bio/psycho/social assessments. You're very confused, but that's ok because now you know.

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    6. I know what diagnosis means. I also know what insinuation means and that's what you are doing, insinuating a diagnosis. I know that's confusing, but know you know.

      LCSW's do not make clinical diagnosis's and are not trained to make those diagnosis's with people they have never met and with information that is based on rumor and is second hand. At least, none worth their salt would, or even try. That would be, at best, a trained forensic physiologists task.

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    7. I'm not interested in arguing with you about the words you're putting in my mouth. I will be ignoring you from now on.

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    8. Man, why are so many people interested in this case so cranky all the time? It's silly to comment in a public forum, introduce theories, then get sour when questions or clarification follow, even when their tone may seem confrontational. "I will be ignoring you from now on." *That* sure makes for lively, interesting exchanges.

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  8. Matt
    What is your opinion on the damage

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    1. I answered above. But again I stress it's impossible for me to tell 100% without having been there or seeing on sight pictures

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  9. According to Petrit Vasi he has never been interviewed by the police in the past twelve years, so therefore there is no ongoing investigation (if there ever was one); you’re simply being stonewalled.

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    1. From what I read on an interview he said something like "I was really drunk and then I got hit by a car. I don't remember much else about that night."

      So if he's telling the truth, there's nothing to go on with him.

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  10. Not saying Maura was driving, but I think there is a distinct possibility that her car hit Vasi. I bet a street side bus stop style bench was also damaged.

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  11. Since there aren't any crime scene photos (to my knowledge) there is no proof that the damage we see on the car happened where we found the car.

    Unless we could look at the ATM/liquor store footage and maybe we could see the condition of the car before she left...but that hasn't been released.

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  12. +Christopher LE confirm(s) there is video footage & they stated have reason to believe it is MM. But they have neverrrrr offered an explanation to WHY it was never released in the early stages OR in years of investigation. That's a lead balloon in my opinion.

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  13. How is this any less pointless than the FBI petition?

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  14. All right. Maybe now answers will be released.

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