Thursday, January 14, 2016

FBI Says They're Already Investigating the Case

I hate to be that guy, but remember when I told you the FBI have been on this case since day 2, and the petition is all a needless distraction? Yeah...


The FBI, meanwhile maintains it is already aiding in the investigation. 
“The FBI is assisting New Hampshire Sate Police and we’re going to defer to them as they are the lead agency,” spokesman Kristen Setera of the Boston FBI office said in a prepared statement this week. “Due to the fact that there is an ongoing investigation, we have to decline further comment.”

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  1. What an absolute crap article that is. Wow.

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    1. You mean James Renner that as a professional and seasoned journalist you actually check your facts before you publish them???? Weird. Sure didn't see that coming! Oh and I'm irritated that one person uses tons of aliases on this blog and yet preaches about truth. I don't know him personally but I feel that it is weird that he has inserted himself in this case. Hmmm....where else do we hear of that kind of behavior???

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    2. the podcast is entertaining but it really is not very deep in the case. and they have created false drama at times (they were being harassed and followed in nh?)now their assistant is being played up as a major figure in the case. all the jazz with the medium and similar characters early in the series left me with a sour taste that made me believe that they were not really serious about the case

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    3. Sometimes the truth is not so dramatic, crap it is not.

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  2. Thank you for this. The podcast and this John Smith character are really doing a disservice by focusing on things like this that are known to be nonissues. Really need to put this and the accident itself to rest.

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    1. sure, just toss the evidence

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    2. It is not about tossing evidence. John Smith picks what evidence supports his theory of the day, and the podcast guys are the flimsiest intellects in this case. They just follow whoever they have on. When it was Renner, they acted like everything Renner said made sense. Now the same with John Smith. They are like game show hosts - zero critical thinking. If Fred and his mouthpiece John Smith are serious, then it is time for them to step up and address lots of the inconsistencies and have them tell Kate and Sara come forward and say what they know about the days leading up to the disappearance.
      Oh, and if John Smith says "as a former police officer" one more time...he did it for two years, hardly more than a rookie. He simply isn't a law enforcement expert. He's a hanger on.

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    3. Quite a rude response, anonymous, and not needed. The podcast "guys" like to explore every avenue that could seem semi plausible. And since John Smith claimed to have an inside relationship with Fred, they heard him out. They have their own personal theories. You should be thankful thankful that they're shining light on the case and bringing a new crowd in.

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    4. "Oh, and if John Smith says "as a former police officer" one more time...he did it for two years, hardly more than a rookie. He simply isn't a law enforcement expert. He's a hanger on."

      Have never stated that I was an expert but Common Sense was instilled early on and it is utilized. Being analytical about the case it what investigators do. Jump off your high horse 'Anonymous' and put your real name out there, don't hide behind the keyboard and spew shit out your hole. When you have a real name I will listen to and take into account your comments. Until then you are a waste on bandwidth.

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    5. Anon @ 8:19 AM- I agree
      It seems John puts the evidence to his theory.
      Its time for Fred to address the inconsistencies on his part and ask Kate and Sara to say what they know. Telling the Truth, could possibly lead to clues to what happened to Maura.

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    6. Whether or not they pursue every avenue or heard out John Smith has no bearing on the lack of critical thinking they bring to the table. They are light weights in the truest sense. And instead of really analyzing the case, they are giving a platform and support for the spin of John Smith and Fred in an effort to ignore that Maura was not a trouble-free youth and to ignore a lot of the questionable and inconsistent actions and statements by Fred. They are so clearly pandering to Fred's position at this point it is pathetic. That kind of bias taints their entire "investigation."

      I feel for the Murrays. This is a tragedy of epic proportions, especially because its so public. But if you want a shining example of forthright parents looking to do whatever they can to get answers, look to Minnesota and Patty and Jerry Wetterling. Why keep so many secrets Fred, if you really want answers and so many people want to help - step up.

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    7. @anonymous 8:19 am, extremely curt but I feel ya. I don't think the podcast guys have flimsy intellects though. I just think they haven't ever been burned enough by con artists in their lives.

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  3. In this article, it says Maura drove through 3 states. Massachusetts's, New Hampshire, and Vermont... Maura didn't drive through Vermont on Feb. 9, 2004. At least not to the public's knowledge. Right??? I looked up how to get from Amherst, Ma to Haverhill, NH and it doesn't look like Maura would of drove through Vermont yet...

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    1. Assuming she drove up I-91, she did drive through Vermont. 91 runs up the VT/NH border, but is in VT.

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    2. yes she drove through VT. Wake up people, where did ya look it up?

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    3. You didn't look it up very hard then.... At that point she had just crossed into NH

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    4. Check your map again. The common assumption here is that Maura drove out of MA on Interstate 91, which crosses the border into VT.

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    5. "Assuming she drove up I-91, she did drive through Vermont."

      This is closest to the truth. We have NO PROOF she drove through VT.

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  4. "The podcast and this John Smith character are really doing a disservice by focusing on things like this that are known to be nonissues."

    What do you say, gang?


    TWELVE

    MORE

    YEARS!!!

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    1. If it was their loved one missing one would bet these attitudes would be totally different. pretty freaking sad.

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    2. Matty Man, I couldn't agree more.

      It's far easier to hide behind "anonymous" handles and sling insults at those who are turning stones. For the record, I never agree 100% with anyone associated with this case however far up the noise chain. It's called perspective.

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    3. I agree @Matty Man, I have lost all faith in humanity, if I had endless amounts of money, she would be found, because I would hire the best ex military, ex Navy Seals, the guilty would be in prison, or never to be found again.

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    4. I know if it was my loved one, I would tell everything I knew and wouldn't withhold important info. I wouldn't take 2 years to do a formal statement with police.

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  5. SERIOUSLY, do you ever feel like you just want to clonk heads together, ala the three stooges? Many people are so obsessed with there being a conspiracy -any conspiracy- I just want to wash my hands of the whole thing sometimes. I can only imagine how you feel.

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    1. see you later gator

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    2. But conspiracy theories are so fun and productive!!!!!

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    3. "But conspiracy theories are so fun and productive!!!!!"

      The hash has been slung for years. The cops are covering it up. The family is covering up her getaway to Canada. Both are conspiracies.

      Maybe she disappeared? Yeah. But we don't know under what circumstances. Until we know more through concrete evidence, all notions can and will be tabled.

      This is Captain Obvious stuff.

      'nuff sed.

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    4. The simplest explanations are usually the most correct, conspiracies, like JFK, just keep making it a mystery with no answers. Also for such elaborate conspiracies, everyone would have to be a pro at it, Maura couldn't talk her way out of credit card fraud so I doubt she fits putting together an elaborate scheme, all the while not making one mistake in 11 years. Not possible, faking death is one thing, restarting a new life with no experience and not a good liar, I'm skeptical.

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    5. My comment was not against putting all notions on the table. I don't think any reasoning intelligent person would refute the necessity of doing so in a case where someone's whereabouts are unknown. My sarcasm was directed at the fact that certain people here are dead set on it being a conspiracy and they have managed to influence others and the this in a direction it doesn't need to go and that does no one any good. Once a theory has been debunked or proven to not be so, any body who stubbornly insists on perpetuating it has an ulterior motive.

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  6. Why do they keep stating that the FBI isn't and hasn't been involved? When they have been...just because they aren't the lead investigators, doesn't mean they haven't helped.

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  7. Why do they keep stating that the FBI isn't and hasn't been involved? When they have been...just because they aren't the lead investigators, doesn't mean they haven't helped.

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  8. Like Swordfish the movie,"what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes". There is no proof she was in Haverhill, not 100%. Misdirection, while looking in Haverhill she could've been on the first flight out of Boston, easy peasy.

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    1. Excellent thought

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    2. A sister that looks like her at the scene? OR a friend about the same size? Interesting. But speculation, yes, as we all do. Flight records & fake names etc post 9/11 is an obstacle but not impossible. Could have driven (or rode as passenger) away to some location in any direction as well.

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    3. Kathleen her sister looks almost like her, plus butch at first didn't recognise Maura as the driver, I just cannot say 100% she was in Haverhill, no one can.

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  9. I'm getting the vibe John Smith is just a mouthpiece for Fred.

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    1. Fred Murray doesn't need a megaphone like Smith, he is outspoken about his feelings. the cops did not do a good job that night and from that night on.

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    2. Anon: With all the schisms among the well-intended parties in this investigation, Fred Murray needs all the help he can get. That he said seemingly misleading things and is accused of lying by certain parties, in the end, doesn't change the fact his daughter is missing. Does the past matter? Yes. But all those online exchanges about the past muddy what connects Amherst to Haverhill.

      Yes, it would help LE if the family did provide all facts. "None of that stuff matters." Maybe it does. Maybe Julie is right. It's not our business. It's LE's.

      It's true that most folks are murdered by someone close to them. We don't know of any evidence someone close to MM would act against her violently. Therefore, casting Fred in such a suspicious light is a distraction and doesn't help the family either.

      It's not important we "support" one online blogger or the other. I've read things valid at many various online conversation sites. Again, it's about evidence and perspective. Then, evidence over perspective.

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  10. “We just want her back,” Fred said on the podcast. “I need help and I’m so totally frustrated. … It’s my daughter. I can’t go away. I’ve got to find her.”

    Fred, Fred....just come clean on what you know instead of this hardly believable pandering

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    1. Fred said that stuff on the Unsolved.com video. not on the podcast just to keep things clear.

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    2. True, it was then quoted on the podcast.

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  11. So, what are the chances the FBI would get involved and stay involved after 12 years if they thought this was someone running away?

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  12. what truth seeker Smith and some others do is cherry pick facts and witnesses that support their theories. For example, police witnesses and the Westmanns are considered far less credible than some random woman passing by who is the only one to claim a police SUV was the first police at the scene. what is more likely, that the police and bystanders were all lying in a case involving a girl they did not know or have any connection with, or that the random drive-by witness was misremembering or otherwise wrong?

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  13. I should really stop using the word "disappeared" a more appropriate meaning is, she is somewhere else, too much drama. She didn't get sucked into a vortex of non space, she is simply somewhere else. Once you know where to look, it becomes so stupidly easy.

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  14. If we eliminate all the places she isn't, we are left with where she is, easy peasy.

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  15. Why should the Westmans be more credible, they said man was smoking a cigarette for Christs sake. Thats not reliable at all.

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    1. IMO- all the witnesses original statements are probably the closest to what happened.
      Faith said she saw a man smoking a cigarette on the passenger side. Why would she lie on the 911 call, at this point? Hasn't it been said that some of Maura's family told the Westmans that it wasn't a cigarette but the light off her cellphone or car charger?
      IMO- family, friends, and witnesses Original statement are more reliable then what has been said later on.

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  16. +jjmcgr Just passing the peace pipe...... we'all kinda run-with-the-info-we-have. Trying to make sense of what's been disclosed & put the rubik's cube together. Some people have more info than us common folk do ;) so naturally they run with it. Ive tripped, slipped, & tumbled over bits & pieces myself - alllllll valid info. I just dont have the resources to prove, double prove, & triple prove it.

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  17. Hello! I have just checked your blog and some of the podcast.
    I signed the petition before I read your entry. I should be better next time for doing more research :).
    Now for my piece of mind- just a bunch of theories but it's what I think what happened so if you don't agree, it's fine, I'm no psychic or investigator:
    I think it's so odd Maura's father is so pushy about the FBI. Of course! They can cross and operate thru the Canadian border. I just don't think this is the FBI top priority case. Let us be realistic in this world of terrorist groups, drug gangs, etc. I just think Maura's dad is so on to finding Maura that maybe they did lose track of her over time with very little communication until there was no communication at all. I just feel like there's something odd between friends and family- it's like "I have dirt on you, so going to the police will be counterproductive" kind of thing from both sides. So they both rather stay in the status quo, with Maura's dad trying to find another way to find Maura thru the FBI. I just think this is a control and a pride thing since for me, running away from her part makes more sense than a murder or a kidnapping due to all this mess she was getting to. She gives me the impression of a person who was being asphyxiated by enormous responsibility and barely any space to be a girl, teenager or a woman and just had it with her family and her boyfriend. I think she was even testing the waters on how to erase her tracks thru the credit card theft (if it's not under my name, maybe I can disappear thru using cards under another name) but obviously it didn't work (so probably her first lesson was, get the money out in cash). It's interesting that she could obverse and learn thru her dad's accident (she realized how long does it take the police to be there, trucks, etc.) and I think if she went to these parties often, her alcohol tolerance was pretty strong. She possibly looked sober to the officer and that's why no sober test was made. With all of this data, she was able to pull it off, escape, with assistance.

    Thank you so much for this blog, I'll keep reading more, so let's hope she's living well somewhere.

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  18. James in episode 6 of the podcast literally said "The FBI aren't involved." It's at about the 19 minute and 20 second mark.

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