Sunday, January 10, 2016

KF Joins the Hunt

Tim and Lance are back with a new episode of Missing Maura Murray and it may be their best podcast yet.

This week, they introduce "KF," a woman who is tracking down new clues in the case after nearly 12 years. She also gives an important female perspective to the case.

If you haven't listened in a while, get back to it, now. It's getting good.

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  1. And she sells solar cells too !

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  2. Definitely one of their best episodes yet... great new info and perspective. I, personally, will never understand how anyone could eat a pickle but I guess it's like snacking on celery because of its negative caloric impact.

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    1. But speaking as a gal who watches her weight - the sodium bloat is awful! Low to no calories but the sodium will puff you up.

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  3. Great episode! This episode was far more substantial than most of the previous ones.

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  4. I really enjoyed the podcast. Its great they added KF to the team. I think it'll be great to have a woman's perspective on the show and to aspects of the case.
    This was the first time, I heard Julies boyfriend( at that time) was best friends with Billy. Wonder what's he knows/ thinks?
    I thought its been said Maura met Billy, when she got in trouble for stealing the make-up at West Point? Did Maura meet Billy through Julie or when she got caught stealing at West Point?
    In Maura's email to her group of friends from high school on Dec.15,2003, Maura says the snow plow sucks, Her Saturn got stuck again. Fred said Maura hasn't drove her car in two weeks because it was unreliable and smoking something fierce. This e-mail was about 3 weeks before she disappeared. Also, she had been catching rides to clinicals. The semester had just started, so how many clinicals had she been to? So what happened to Maura's car between Dec. 15, 03 and Feb. 6, 04 (Friday).
    Also, Maura says Dane Cook was playing at UMASS on Feb. 12 but tickets were sold out. She did a little research and found out he had a show in Connecticut on Feb. 12. Was Dane Cook playing in 2 different places on Feb. 12?
    When Kathleen said the guy saw her with a backpack. Which person is she talking about? I didn't think any of the witnesses had saw someone with a backpack.
    Who was Maura with in Florida on Spring Break?
    Were these the only 2 e-mails from Dec. 15- Jan. 9 that Maura had wrote to the group of girls , or were these the only 2 that were given to the reporter?
    Wonder why she mentioned all the accidents at the crosswalks near UMASS in her e-mail? Were there any hit and runs between Dec.15, 03 and Feb. 7, 04 besides Petrit Vasi?


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    1. There is an article from the UMass Collegian available online that talks about Vasi's recovery. It's dated October 19, 2004. So we're talking 8 months after the hit and run and Maura's disappearance. The article mentions the hit and run problems on the UMass campus that year.

      Direct quotes:

      "In the wake of several hit and run accidents this academic year involving University of Massachusetts students, one lucky student is back in school to finish his senior year after an accident last winter left him in critical condition."

      and...

      "As several students have been the victims of car accidents this year alone, including Lisa Shiozaki and Ciara Tran, both of whom were left in critical condition, Vasi’s accident proves not to be an isolated event, and his recovery proves to be very fortunate."

      One other quote that interested me was this one...

      "Police would not comment further about the incident because it is still under investigation."

      Ummmmmmm....O.K. And yet here we are 12 years later and the police STILL have not talked with Vasi? That makes no sense.

      To read the full article, go to:

      http://dailycollegian.com/2004/10/19/student-still-faces-long-road-to-recovery/

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    2. If Julie's boyfriend at the time was best friends with Billy, it could explain what Maura was upset about the night Petrit Vasi was hit.

      Julie and Maura both went to Westpoint but Maura had to leave because she got caught stealing. They both ran track and I remember reading not too long ago that Maura's best years as a runner were behind her and she was a walk on on the Mass track team. Whereas Julie was still a solid runner.

      From everything that we've learned, it seems clear that their family environment was competitive. I've long wondered if Julie saw Maura as a screw up and was annoyed by her screw ups.

      We know that Maura and Billy's relationship was on the rocks and if Julie's boyfriend was Billy's best friend, it seems entirely plausible that Julie would have gone on a rant at Maura not to screw things up with Billy because of how them breaking up could have affected Julie.

      It also seems plausible that if that had happened, given the stress Maura was already coping with, it would have been enough to really upset her that night and to leave her in a state where the only words she could get out were 'my sister'.

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    3. We talked about this before, after 911 people other than born Americans we're typically ignored, almost like a racial thing, ignorance, all their doing is hurting themselves or fellow Americans by not catching the people doing hit and runs.

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    4. the racial thing is hogwash! (false white guilt?)... the hit and run was not solved because the victim was found laying in the street and in a coma for months. When he woke up he had no memory of the incident, probably because he was very drunk when hit. In other words it wasn't because of some wanna belief in neo-racism after 9/11. It was because there was virtually no evidence in the case and no witnesses. John Smith from the Mayflower would have been treated similarly.
      PS in Brockton, MA about a year ago they had a spate of hit and runs, like seven people killed in six months. None of them have been solved (one was a friend of my son's).

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    5. Exactly. The fact is Vasi is an American of Iranian descent and unfortunately he was most likely the victim of an act of discrimination. Whoever hit him was venting their deep seated feelings onto him, feelings that are prejudicial, if the hit and run was in fact on purpose.

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    6. I'm sorry, Jason K., but that's total BS. The police questioned everyone who was with Vasi that night, and canvassed for potential witnesses. Given that there weren't any cameras, etc. what else were they supposed to do? Sprinkle magic CSI dust over the intersection to find the culprit? Sorry, bub that's only on TV.

      Yes, it would have been better to cover all their bases by interviewing Vasi himself but they probably followed his condition and knew he had 100% amnesia of that night. Police are not hypnotists who are going to tease the memory from a head trauma victim - again, you watch too many movies.

      And trying to make this a racial thing? Give us all a break.

      The police in New Hampshire who've failed to find Maura for 12 years are simply either unlucky or incompetent, but the MA police who failed to crack the Vasi case are "racist"? Go find another blog to troll, bro.

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  5. Where did the information about the Saturn's radiator being crushed come from? On the Toyota (Fred's car) the radiator was messed up.
    Could the Saturn of been being towed?

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    1. I had read that somewhere as well the Rad was pushed into the fan, maybe she hit something in the yard across from the barn before she came to a stop.

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  6. I think all the experiences Maura had makes her unique, even to other women. I think an unbiased, strictly the facts is the best approach, gender, age, nationality is a moot point. Have we learned anything new, not really. But good podcast, it gets the message out 😉

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  7. Wasn't Billy supposed to help her with legal stuff as well, when she got caught stealing makeup from their store.

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  8. The Good: A plea to get The FBi to take the case. The purpose of the podcast clarified, however politely to the thin-skinned. Another fresh perspective, finally from a woman's point of view. MM's warranted distrust of the Saturn. Insight into MM's personality. Emails among MM and her friends, that discredit, perhaps definitively, she ever was suicidal, which utterly contradicts the NHSP official position.

    The Bad: While not nearly as padded as past episodes, the podcast series still suffers from a lack of content. Edit, condense, edit.

    Net: A better episode in a series that's still too much gravy and not enough meat and potatoes.

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    1. I agree about the uneven quality of the podcast. They keep bringing in these unknown "experts" and have never really totally discussed the case.

      The FBI begging seems to me to be a thinly veiled belief in police involvement or incompetence in the disappearance and also a way of remaining in Fred's good graces. Sorry, I find the witness who saw the SUV at the crash site to be far less believable than what the police reports and the neighbors said.

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  9. Almost forgot ... KF pretty much renders the dorm room scene irrelevant. It's pretty clear that MM could live out of unpacked boxes.

    Therefore, the dorm was not repacked for a disappearance and early withdrawal, she simply hadn't UNPACKED. The art on the walls? Maybe she didn't like Britney Spears anymore. Oh, and Led Zeppelin had already broken up.

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    1. No. This has been proven for a very long time. They were not boxes sitting there unpacked from Christmas. Maura packed up. There may have been a few things on the shelves, but she was packed. And on top of everything was the email with Bill, where Bill admits to cheating on her.

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    2. Did the family verify this? If not who?

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    3. How exactly has this been proven James? I know there's been a lot of talk about it but to my knowledge nothing was "proven".

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    4. The word proven requires definitive evidence -- please share yours. This detail is one of the most critical. A supposition by a journalist or investigator is not proof.

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    5. Agree. I've been following this blog for years, and every so often I go back to the beginning and read everything all over again. I haven't seen any where that it's been proven she had packed up and was leaving, its just speculation. Just like for some its just speculation that she just didn't unpack. There isn't very much in this case that can be 100% proven unfortunately and there inlies the mystery.

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  10. I've always had issues with the overly-casual conversation, 'stream of consciousness' style of their podcast, but lately......I am finding the podcast more and more unlistenable,ugh. James, I am looking forward to your logical and rational book, even if it has to be postponed due to new info.


    That is all.

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  11. Agreed, very interesting podcast. My initial response while listening was mildly negative. I still believe that it's silly to say that "KF" (or anyone else) is "tracking down new clues in the case after nearly 12 years." There aren't any new clues. "KF" is merely digging out and re-examining some of the old ones. Conceivably, that might be a useful enterprise. More likely, if those old clues didn't lead anywhere first time round, it's unlikely that they will lead anywhere now.

    The discussion of MM's email messages, was, I thought, the most interesting thing that "KF" had to offer. Her analysis of MM"s mental state was speculative, but I thought "KF" did offer some good reasons for questioning the notion that MM intended to disappear.I think that is the crucial point in any analysis or investigation of the case.If indeed MM meant to disappear, there should be some clues from her previous life that would point to a motive.If MM meant to disappear, this is not a criminal matter.(Except, possibly for crimes committed by MM or her associates)So far, no-one has come up with anything to explain why she might suddenly decide to throw her education and career away and start an underground existence. That means, the default assumption has to be that,one way or another, MM's journey was interrupted. That would imply either that she was the victim of criminal acts, or she simply lost her way.

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  12. Perhaps Maura was using the AIM instant messenger to talk with someone. This was a popular method to talk with friends, family, and new people back then.

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  13. In the picture of Maura's car, where the Saturn's door is open and you can see inside the drivers side, it shows part of the back passenger window and it looks like the window is rolled down some.
    IMO- if the window was rolled down, when the car was found, then there's a high chance someone was/ had been smoking in it. Why would someone have a back window cracked in winter? To smoke IMO

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    1. I've wondered that too but considering how the car was handled over the years I'm afraid it's badly compromised. Is it still worth tearing apart and trying to collect prints, DNA, other evidence? You bet. We have nothing to lose at this point.

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