Friday, February 19, 2016

Bill/Kate/Maura

One eagle-eyed reader noticed something in the phone records that has yet to be reported: On the day of Maura's disappearance, Bill was trying all day to speak to Maura. But they never connected. There was only one time when Maura called Bill from her cell phone that day. And it happened at the same time Bill was calling Kate Markopoulos. The call went to voice mail and Maura never called him back after that.

Coincidence?

Or was Maura standing beside Kate when the call came in?


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  1. In a previous post I mentioned that I thought it was possible that Kate and Maura were together during that phone call and that Maura potentially was the one who spoke to Billy for that 7 minutes on Kate's phone.

    If she told him to leave her alone and held something incriminating over his head he may have left this conversation out of his story to police.

    I posted this theory twice but I don't think my comments were approved. Or they didn't go through. Glad to see the theory here though.

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    1. Happens in every cold case, right? Stirrr that pot ...

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    2. Bill and Kate never spoke right? It was Sara whom he finally connected with days later.

      I'm very confused about Maura calling him in the same time he was calling Kate. he didn't answer her, AFTER all those calls to her?

      WEIRD.

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  2. Did I miss the post that discussed BR's call log? Does someone have the link?

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  3. IMO- no its not a coincendance.
    Looks like Maura knew exactly when to make that call to Billy.
    Billy had been trying to call Maura most of the day, so I'm sure he would of picked Maura's call up.
    Doesn't seem like Maura truly wanted to speak with Billy, so how could she of known he wouldn't pick up?

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    1. Refresh my memory of 2004 cell phones. When you called a person who was in the process of calling another person, is there a busy signal?

      Wouldn't it show on Billy's records M called him?

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    2. I completely agree. I have always believed Kate was with her on the day of her disappearance. I also believe another individual was with her that day too. I do believe Billy was a stand up guy, and he just got put in an impossible situation. I think Maura was a nice girl, but collapsed without BR there as a pillar. The way I see it, that report on Vasi says NOTHING. Take it as you like, but on any stretch of road in New England in the winter there are thousands of paint chips from the winter corrosion. And so many people on this board think the police have unlimited time and resources; it's laughable at times. Of course they aren't going to mention Maura in a report that was not investigated hardly at all because of the lack of physical evidence and witnesses. Police NEVER investigate crimes without either. They went through the motions, and those files sat in the cabinet collecting dust for the past 15 years! This is just another piece of information that reinforces my belief the accident was staged, and she was influenced by people around her to at least leave town and possible leave the country.

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    3. I don't think the call showed on Billy's records because the call never connected.
      At 1:19, Billy tried calling Maura 3 times within 5 minutes.
      Maura had just called Billy at 2:18, so why did she not pick up, when he calls a minute later? (Billy's an hour behind Maura)
      IMO- this shows Maura didn't really want to speak with Billy.

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  4. So if we imagine that Kate WAS with MM at some point in the afternoon that day, she may or may NOT have known MM was skipping town.

    If MM was running from some bad guy, didn't she try to call the cops? What kind of trouble did she get in that someone would try to harm her? She was only back two weeks ...

    JR: Is this related to that "person" you mentioned a few months back, that something you may have shared with Lance, in which you changed your mind that she's probably dead? After all, it's usually someone you know.

    Could MM have P'd O Kate's father? Before discounting that, you DID ask Kate "that" question ... or is it MM's ex-coach?

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    1. What if the bad guys told Maura that terrible would happen if she told the cops. Remember Maura had a history of lying so the police probably wouldn't believe her.

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  5. Interesting theory, but what would the purpose of this have been? If Maura didn't want to talk to Billy, why call at all? I don't see how it serves a purpose from Maura's perspective, except to say if she DID intend to speak to him again at some point, she didn't want him mad at her for not calling back. She would be able to say "I did call you and I got your voicemail." And in that scenario, whatever happened to Maura in NH was unplanned.

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  6. Regarding the email Maura sent to Billy stating that she didn't feel like talking and would call him later, did she send that before or after the phone call in question?

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  7. What time did M call Bill on the 9th?

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    1. 2:18 pm- Maura called Billy
      1:18 pm- Billy calls Kate's cellphone and dormroom
      1:19 pm- Billy called Maura 3 times within 5 minutes.
      Billy was an hour behind Maura.

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  8. So, when he called Maura and her friend a lot in a small amount of time, Maura calls back AND he fails to answer?

    Is that not weird?

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    1. You need to look over the records again.

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  9. If we are to believe that one of the Weisman's was correct on seeing a 2nd person in the car who was smoking, could that have been Kate?

    Did she smoke?

    Also, where was Kate living? We all know Maura picked up booze and hit up the ATM that day and LE says MM was alone.

    Did she then go and pick up Kate after?

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    1. If I had to guess, I would say Kate probably wasn't a smoker since she too was a talented athlete. Her track team accomplishments were better than Maura's.

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  10. Follow the paper trail and Billy's 24 calls on the 8th, 52 calls on the 9th and 68 on the 10th

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  11. I don't see the significance of this. What if they were standing next to each other when a call from Bill came in to Kate. How does that change the things?

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  12. Cell phones have changed a great deal in 12 years, but I believe that even back in 2004 Billy would have gotten a notification on his phone that another call was coming in as he was speaking with Kate. Given that he had been trying very hard to reach Maura, he surely would have said, "Hold on, Katie, I've got another call coming through, it might be from Maura, I'll call you right back."

    Peter

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    1. I so cannot remember how phones then handled that. But i do think there is a beep or something.

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  13. I must of missed the Kate's early quote that " I don't think she fell of the face of the earth. I also really give creedance to Hoss the track coach interview , where he states she talked about disappearing. And one of my personal favorites was from a old West Point Roommate who said : " It's just a feeling I always had". Some quotes in interviews just resonate with creedance .

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  14. Not sure if this has ever been addressed, but wasn't Billy in a different time zone? If so, do the times in his phone record match up with those on Maura's or should an adjustment be made?

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    1. Yes they match up. Maura called Billy at 2:18 pm and Billy called Kate's cell and dormroom at 1:18 pm.

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  15. Was Maura's breakdown at work, on the same day it was announced that there would be an investigation into grilling assaults and harassment in the military at West Point?

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    1. Id hug you if I could Anon 2.19.16 @9:30pm !!!

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    2. HMMM ... oddly I never considered this. Dumb. I think we may be getting warm.

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    1. That would honestly be a much better goal. Since we'll never really know if the FBI is going to send 40 agents to cover this case or not, even if we get 10,000

      But a petition with a tangible goal (releasing the CCTV video) could actually win with a pressure campaign and could help with filling in the gaps of what happened that day.

      Was her car already damaged from hitting Vasi? What kind of state was she in when she was at the store?

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  17. Even If Bill was on the phone with Kate, wouldn't his phone signal if another call was coming in? My phone does. It wouldn't go straight to voice mail.

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    1. It depends. If he was still in the process of calling Kate (with the phone still ringing), he most likely would *not* have an incoming call notification. The line wouldn't yet be "open", so another call could not come through on call waiting. If he was in the process of leaving her a voicemail when Maura called, he *may* have been able to see another call coming through, but even with phones today very often it will still go straight to voice mail (and not register call waiting) if you've just begun leaving another person a VM or just started a call. It's really unpredictable. I know here in 2016 with the newest technology and iphones, every so often I'll get a voicemail when I'm on the other line without call waiting appearing on my end, and my phone not ringing to the person on the other end. It can be pretty unpredictable.

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  18. Cell phones have changed a lot in 12 years. Today if I'm in a rural area, and someone calls me, my phone won't even ring. When I get out of the rural area, I will look and see I have a voicemail, but no missed call. And I also wind up accidentally hanging up on someone if I'm talking and I go to switch over to take another incoming call, and go back to talking to another person. I have a iPhone 6, and I still screw up resuming a call.

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  19. In regards to the search that MM did on her computer in the days leading upto her disappearance about the effect alcohol has on a feotus, do we know that as fact or is it rumour/speculation?

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    1. I know it's a rumor, but I haven't actually seen any articles or official statements that she did look it up.

      But if anyone has any links...

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  20. Sounds like Billy cheated on Maura. Maura is upset and needs a break from school and life. Billy tries to call Maura all day to explain why he's not a bad guy. Maura doesn't want to hear his BS. Maura leaves for NH to clear head. Maura is sipping on wine and crashes car. Something bad happens after she crashes car.

    Red flags. Missing police reports and contradictory eye witnesses. RF saying he saw her an hour later miles from the crash scene.

    Maura's personal life is fun to discuss, but it's not going to solve this case.

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    1. This. Flew right into a wasp nest. Aimless fun ending in trouble.

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  21. So what about 112Dirtbag? Aldon olsen?

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  22. Whatever happened to This old man and his mysterious videos?

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  23. What if the "death in the family" Maura was referring to when she told her professors and boss was an abortion. What if that was why the voicemail Maura left for Billy Monday at 2:18 saying "she does really feeling like talking to much of anyone right now" was because she was sad over an abortion. I can see this kind of secret being one the family AND friends would hide forever. The secret they are all keeping is something they don't think would help the investigation. I think Maura being either about to get or just had an abortion would fit that category. Since the baby's father (at least in their minds) had to be Billy and there is proof Billy was nowhere near Maura the night of her disappearance, they feel there is no point in airing dirty laundry. They believe they are protecting Maura's and possibly Billy's reputation be staying mum.
    My family is very private and I can see them doing this exact thing if I were to have been in a similar situation (I am female).
    Now if it is true Maura was having sex with other men, what her family may NOT know is that if the child's father might have been someone other than Billy and that person might have a reason to harm Maura.

    Maybe Billy and Maura were talking about having the baby until Maura heard Billy had cheated again. I'm not saying he did cheat again, but what if Maura at least thought he cheated on hear again. Maybe the "death in the family" was going to be the baby she was going to abort?

    I think this could explain Kate M.'s reaction to being questioned. Maybe Kate M is the only one who know who the child's father could someone other than Billy and is scared if she says anything the same thing will happen to her as happened to Maura...

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    1. This sounds a bit like science fiction. There is no proof that she was ever pregnant; or that she run away to get an abortion or that she had sex with many guys. There is a fine line between speculation and letting one's imagination run a little too far.

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    2. No proof is why my statement starts with "what if" I never mentioned sex with many guys, I mentioned maybe Billy and one other. This is not speculation nor imagination, it was as "hypothetical"..after all your comment could be said after all the comments on this blog because as you just said there is "NO PROOF". But thanks for trying to help out. lol

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    3. That wouldnt explain why in Maura's car their was 1 tampon. If she was pregnant and planning on keeping it, she wouldn't need any tampons. If she was pregnant and planning an abortion (or just had one) she would need multiple sanitary napkins and she would not be able to (or want to) use a tampon.

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  24. Personally, I do think that Maura was pregnant and that her friends were aware. I don't think that the baby was Billy's and I think Maura had either decided on an abortion or was trying to induce one through alcohol. I know that this is largely speculation, but I do think that it explains a lot of the strange choices in days leading up to the disappearance. I believe that her friends may have helped her or traveled to NH with her to spend a few days away and go through the abortion with her. This theory works up until the point of the crash, in which case I feel it would be TOO coincidental that she was victim of a stranger's "crime of opportunity." Any thoughts on how the crash may tie into the possible pregnancy? This case drives me nuts...so intriguing but so frustrating.

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  25. Saludos a todos! Recién eh descubierto este caso a través de un youtuber!
    PD:soy de Paraguay y trataré de ayudarlos en lo que pueda

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