Friday, February 12, 2016

Everything About This Case is Weird


A couple interesting tidbits came through via email the last few days. There's been another significant sighting, which I'll talk about after I give the police a couple days to track it down.

For the moment, here's a screen grab that reader Zak took from Google Maps. He was searching the area of Maura's accident and found a red truck parked on the side of the road by the river. One witness from that night remembered seeing a red truck with Mass plates turn around at the Swiftwater Stage Shop.

I mean, most likely it's nothing. But... weird, right?

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  1. The area where this red truck is located is pretty far from the accident site ( west) and at this stretch of road you will always see cars/trucks parked along here because it is a well known spot to pan and dredge for gold.

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  2. Yeh, that's weird.. How far is this from the accident scene?

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  3. I mean WTH??? It's just one thing after another screwing with my head on this case!! Is Google Maps searched through realtime I assume? Probably right, most likely nothing, but the coincidences in this case are unreal. And an unprecedented frustration. Sweet Jesus.
    Can't wait to hear about the sighting... Canada again??

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    1. I have seen google maps results from over 5 years in the past (friends' & families' houses showing old cars they have since sold, lack of current additions to houses etc). There are different times in the results from different zoom levels in map/satellite views and different time results from different "man on the street" views. The rhyme & reason as to how long ago in the past a google maps result could be is not easily determined especially for rural areas (cities can show businesses that may have closed, changed signs, construction etc).

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    2. Nah, google maps isn't always in real time. I have no idea how it's updated but my parent house is still pictured as it was in the 80s. They live in the boondocks though.

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    3. Google Maps will show the copyright information for the imagery. Most satellite images are current, but the 'Street View' is usually older, with the year it was taken displayed at the bottom.

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    4. Just found this exact spot on Google Maps Street View, and this picture is circa 2013. I'm fairly confident saying this has nothing to do with Maura.

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    5. Just found this exact spot on Google Maps Street View, and this picture is circa 2013. I'm fairly confident saying this has nothing to do with Maura.

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    6. I really *headdesk*ed myself here.

      No. Just...no. There is not some big camera in the sky that zooms in wherever you want to look in real-time on google maps. They have cars literally drive around all over the world and photograph the surroundings to create the maps. I really thought that was fairly common knowledge.

      Also, Anonymous, it's not that it "isn't always in realtime", it's *never* in real time, ever. And being as the internet did not exist in the 1980s (at least to the public) and neither did google maps, your parents house is hardly still pictured as it was then, unless you are attempting to observe the fact that your parents house is 30 years outdated in fashion, and simply hasn't changed since then.

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  4. Hm. Looking at the shape of the grille, looks like a pre-2001 Dodge Ram?

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  5. didn't you mention in one of your blog posts that you knew exactly who was driving the red pickup truck? i thought i read somewhere where you said you had the identification of the person who was driving it that night. apparently it was someone local. if that was the case, why question the red truck again?
    regardless, does anyone recognize the model of this pickup, what year was it built in? this one looks to be in pretty good shape for a 12+ years old truck.

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  6. It is weird. And from the looks of that front end, that appears to be a 2001 Dodge Ram, so it's old enough to have been around at the time of Maura's disappearance.

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    1. If the red truck's owner had been involved in something nefarious concerning Maura's disappearance, wouldn't they have wanted to trade the truck in or somehow destroyed or hidden it? I doubt they would still be driving the same red truck.

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  7. Good catch...but either the plate is edited by Google or it is just too bright to view. Both NH and MA have white plates so its a tough call. The white "spot" at the top middle of the windshield could either be a NH inspection sticker or an EZ pass (the latter makes me more apt to think a MA vehicle, but certainly could be NH too).

    Maybe someone with a keener eye and better knowledge of Dodge Rams can help ;)

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    1. Well, google doesn't edit out license plates. The truck is in the sun.

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    2. I'm with on trying to figure out if that's the NH inspection sticker or an EZ pass.

      And that spot on the bottom left (passenger side) where a MA inspection should be and it looks a lot like one to me.

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    3. Anon: "...google doesn't edit out license plates". They absolutely *do* edit plates on street view. The software they use auto-detects both license plates and faces and blurs them. Occasionally there will be some misses, but the vast majority are automatically blurred to prevent privacy issues.

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  8. That appears to be a second generation. The styling ran from 1994 through 2001/2.

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  9. Hi James...first let me say that you are a terrific writer. Interest in cases like this are the norm for me but, without question, your concise wording drew me in further.
    Sort of reminds me of the Laurie Bembenek case.
    What I've never heard mentioned is the fact that its not difficult at all to cross the border. We're not talking the Rainbow Bridge here... in some spots, particularly with Quebec, its basically like crossing a creek. I know because Ive done it.
    With family on this side, its wouldn't be that difficult to pull off.

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    1. When is the last time you did it? Since 9/11, border security has changed massively. There used to be many spots where you could easily cross, but now there are even motion detectors and infrared sensors in the heavily wooded areas and the farmland on the borders. They were having major issues with drug smuggling (primarily pot), and after 9/11 completely reevaluated the lax borders to prevent potential terrorists crossing over. They don't play around any more (and it's monitored the most at night). Add in the fact it was the middle of winter with snow on the ground and the fact she had a car crash, and I HIGHLY doubt she was mucking through farmland or mountainous regions.

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  10. Really? Trucks especially in wintry areas are common. Its been 12 years. Sure, those online maps are often a few years old and in super rural areas, they likely don't get updated, as with my folks house.

    But This is kind of a stretch.

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  11. You'd think the police would do a vehicle search of anyone owning a red pick up truck and interview them...

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  12. I already inquired about this truck last year..lol nothing new and was not the type of truck the witness saw anyway.

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  13. Weird to the imagination but there are probably a zillion red trucks in the area.

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  14. It strikes me that other information you have been provided about red trucks proximate to the scene both temporally and geographically are way more potentially odd than this.

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  15. Yeah. I saw that red truck when I did a google map search of the area too. Chalked it up to coincidence...probably because so much time has passed. Hmmm.

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  16. Agree 100% there's a lot of very weird "coincidences" about this case. This blog has been excellent in terms of shedding light on so many strange elements. Looking forward to the book coming out in May.

    As far as the red truck, however, all we can say is that sometime within the last 2-3 years (how often Google seems to update streetview - they drive through in one of those funny looking cars with a 360-degree cam on top) there was a red truck parked on the side of the road somewhere near where Maura disappeared? Except a huge chunk of the population up there drives pickups and red is a pretty popular color. In my opinion this is fun to speculate about but not really much of a clue.

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  17. I don't really know cars but I can tell you it's clearly a pickup truck. It could be a Dodge but it might be a Ford. It could have been manufactured for the 2004 year because where I live they show next year's car models in December so it may be from the year Maura disappeared but it could be from the nineties. Has anyone enhanced the photo to see if there is a maker's logo because it would really help in nailing down a year.

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  18. google does most certainly edit out license plates along with people's faces... it blurs them.

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  19. It's a coincidence

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  20. What will be important is if it's a Massachusetts plate. If it's a NH one, it won't be much of a lead.

    Mass. is almost 3 hours away from this area so very few pick up trucks that fit that same description.

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  21. There are 4 red trucks on maps streetview in different years at 3 of the 4 closest houses on rt 112.

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  22. One big question I have is... Renner you spoke with the driver of the red truck? Has John Smith been given this info too? Red truck if not a damn unicorn is possibly fully unrelated to MM. If BA or RF was our culprit here then the red truck was just a lost motorist. However if this red truck was involved we have either a bad person combing the streets of N. Haverhill searching for a victim or most likey a get away vehicle looking for either MM,KM, or SA to make there escape. MM could of already been far away as another similar looking female staged an accident. Cuz damn thats alot of accidents for 1 girl, 1 car in such a short period. Now BA did at first say NO to the pic of MM he saw,stating thats not the girl he saw. I asked the only damn inside source into this case I have a question and the answer was NO! My question was, did anyone show pics of either SA or KM to BA??? Again NO! I was close to attempting to be a cop years ago so I dunno if I would of been a good one or not!? CuzI thought that was a damn good question. BA, well BA since I read another readers post on BA Ive thought lots bout ol BA. Truth rests now 6 feet under but his live in girlfriend, his ma, siblings, friends, anyone he mite of talked to in NH or Fl? Should police waist time barking up that tree any further? Any thing any one can remember bout him from around then? Same with RF,T&F W any damn suspect of any level at any time!!! Did they all report to work the next day? Anyone have any strange injurys on hands etc? Just saying the samllest thing can crack this. So you all know, Im exploring all options here deeply but if you ask me I say happy trails to her old life and shes chilln in her new life. Although this case is too hot so if my thoughts are right she must of had to change her identity, new ss and all. However as popular as this case is Ive only met 2 people (new enganders too) who have heard of MM. So MM could be Laura Surray and her new people in her life have no idea who she is, cuz they prob never heard of the case or Haverhill NH. Either way hoping to get home again this year to visit Ma and Nh. I can do more investigating and Ill report all to NHSP, JS, JR, and this blog!!!

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  24. I literally noticed this truck just yesterday while "driving" down Rte 112 via Google maps. It caught my eye, so I actually took a screenshot. I tried different angles from the front to see if I could at least make out character shapes and potential colors on the license plate, but no dice. The back license plate, however, is not blurred out because the truck bed is open obscuring half the license plate. The half you can see appears to have 4 red characters, then a small space followed by 2 red characters. The color of the motto below is harder to discern, but it could possibly be blue. This is consistent with a MA license plate and not a NH plate, which has green characters. I don't think this is indicative of much. Just that someone with a MA plate likes to pan for gold in the Ammonoosuc River...but I wonder if maybe that person owns a cabin in the area?

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