Monday, September 19, 2016

Was Maura with Kate Just Before She Left UMass?

I'm taking another close look at the phone records for Bill Rausch and Maura Murray, from the day Maura disappeared, and I found a sequence of calls that is interesting.

According to Bill, he was "out in the field" helping with some kind of training exercise at Fort Sill. But apparently, there was cell phone reception out there because he's busy calling Maura all morning. She's not returning his calls. Then, at 2 p.m. EST, Maura sends this email to Bill:

Subject: hey hey
To: "Bill Rausch"

I love you more stud
I got your messages, but honestly, i didn't feel like talking to much of anyone, i promise
to call today though
love you
maura


Bill ignores this and calls her cell phone again. Maura doesn't answer. So at 2:18 EST, he calls Kate Markopoulos's room at UMass, twice in one minute. Seconds later, Maura calls Billy back but he's still connected to Kate's room so the call goes to voicemail.

Bill then immediately calls Maura's cell again. Three times. She doesn't answer.

A couple take-aways: there was some stress between Maura and Bill that day. And Maura is only prompted to call him once he calls Kate. Did Kate tell Maura? Why wouldn't she talk to Maura if Maura's boyfriend was calling from Fort Sill - obviously Billy really wanted to get a message to Maura. Was Maura in Kate's room - is that how she knew he was calling at that moment?

But what happened next? That is the question.

Again, phone records show that Bill is petty consistently making phone calls that day (he made a LOT of calls, to West Point professors and former girlfriends and family members) and that alone suggests he could not have been in the White Mountains, where cell phone service is scarce to this day.

A year ago, I asked Bill about his alibi. Here's the email he sent back.

As previously discussed with you and confirmed by authorities in NH while I was on the ground searching for Maura after she went missing, I was at Fort Sill, OK the day Maura went missing to include the weeks in advance. The last time I saw her was during the holiday season.

Understanding that you need to confirm, please reference the information below.

- From June 2003-June 2004 I was assigned as the Executive Officer (XO) to Charlie Battery, 1-19th Field Artillery at Fort Sill, OK.

Two individuals who can confirm that I was at work when Maura went missing and that I was unable to leave until the Army gave me permission are:

1. Senior Drill Sergeant Robert Ramos -- assigned to Charlie Battery, 1-19th FA and in charge of operations and all Drill Sergeants assigned to the unit.
2. LT Nate Mayfield -- roommate at the time

Nate Mayfield and Robert Ramos have not returned emails or phone calls asking to confirm.

One bit of interesting info that just came to light: records show that Bill was part of the Information Operations Task Force. In 2005, journalists discovered that American soldiers were writing propaganda in support of the unjustified war in Iraq and funneling it through private groups which then helped to place the articles in foreign newspapers.

As the Los Angeles Times put it:
As part of an information offensive in Iraq, the U.S. military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by American troops in an effort to burnish the image of the U.S. mission in Iraq.
On his RallyPoint page, Rausch is listed as working for the IOTF in 2006.

Prior to this Rausch was stationed at Fort Trotten as part of the 301st battalion, part of the 151st Theater Information Operations Group, which was tasked with "synchronizing related capabilities comprised of five core functions: electronic warfare, military deception, psychological operations, operational security, and computer network operations."

Psychological operations is known as PSYOPS in the field. PSYOPS create spin, "to influence, disrupt, corrupt or usurp adversarial human and automated decision making while protecting our own." In the past they have attempted to infiltrate American media as well, most notably getting caught at CNN and NPR.

You can read more about this sort of thing in this article from Christopher Hitchens at Slate.



66 comments:

  1. If the two mentioned were friends/acquaintances with Bill Rausch wouldn't it be easy to just verify/confirm his whereabouts. Especially if he has already named them. The only reasons not to would be 1) it would be a lie or 2) they don't want involved in the mess.

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  2. I think Billy was either a control freak or very concerned about Maura's mental state. Remember her father was concerned she went to commit suicide immediately after her disappearance. I think Billy hounded her friends and one or both of them got irritated and contacted Maura to get back to him.

    I've stated this before. I had a friend with a control freak boyfriend. If she wasn't answering his calls, he was calling her friends incessantly. I don't know if that's a pattern for Billy, but men like that exist. I don't think it in any way proves Kate or Sarah were with Maura the day she disappeared. It just means they were stuck with dealing with his trying to find her. (And also. They may have been avoiding him because he's done that before; it is very bothersome to have your friend's boyfriend to call you incessantly, especially if you are in class or at work or busy with your own life.)

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    1. Even at that age, I don't recall me or any of my friends having boyfriends that had all our female friends phone numbers and we all grew up together and our boyfriends were friends etc. That again hints at Billy being controlling.

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  3. I'm thinking yes, she was with Kate, which is why she called Billy then, she knew he wouldn't answer. She obviously didn't want to talk to him, the email was a *nice* way of blowing him off. She called him back--as promised--but when she was confident she wouldn't have to talk to him, she then "missed" his next calls, probably planning to tell him her phone was on silent or fell in the couch cushions, she left it in her room while she left to eat, or some other excuse for why she didn't answer. At least, as a woman, that's howI see it, it's something I'd have done if angry or upset with my boyfriend. Now, if Billy knew why he was being blown off or not, only he knows. But this is just how I saw this playing out. Hope it makes some sense.

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    1. Rachel, I agree with you and Anonymous @ 10:03. Maura tends to be around men who are in a superior position to her, Fred (father), Billy (West Point) and Hoss (coach). Both Fred and Billy are control freaks, and I think Maura was blowing both of them off by avoiding calls. From what we know about Billy now, he would not like to be ignored by a woman, especially his girlfriend. Maura has been described as quiet and shy by people in her nursing program, just the kind of girl Billy would like-easy to control. But she turned the tables on him and gained control by not taking his calls. He would not like that. I do think he was afraid of Fred's reaction in the hotel room when Maura told him about wrecking his car, though. If I were Maura, I would have called Fred to tell him about his car. He doesn't seem like the "it's ok, honey" type, to say the least. She also did not call Fred on Monday as planned.

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  4. I'm still not convinced that from Sunday afternoon on, that Maura ever got her phone back. All the cell logs show me is a game of cat and mouse. No live talking by Maura. Maybe because she is not with us anymore at this point? No confirmed real sightings of her really, even right up to and at the accident scene. The use of the word "stud" strikes me as not Maura's words, more as coming from a jealous jilted fling to Billy. I still don't trust Bill, Kate or Sara's alibis around these days. No one confirmed for Bill for him from the Army either. The alibi that Mr Renner also suggests that all of NH's White Mtns has no cell service is totally false. Prob 90% of the White Mts in NH has cell service, even back in 2004. The spots of "no service" are certain small areas of roads, that are only minutes in a car, here and there.

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    1. Lance and Tim from the podcast said there's no cell service there even today so I believe them on that. In regards to the rest of your post, the thought that Maura never left Amherst could be mostly cleared up if the police ever released that ATM footage. Although I certainly believe myself that she was the driver of her car on Feb 9.

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    2. The White Mtns of NH is over 800,000 acres. It's true there is no cell service in "spots" (esp at the crash scene), but as someone who has driven most of the roads there,I know where most of the "out of range" spots are (then and now). I think Tim & Lance meant the road near/around the accident, which has zero range, and not the "entire" White Mtns area. I am still unsure if she was the driver at that moment. No ATM video after 12 years? Really? Hasn't been 1 legit reason for that one. Circumstantial evidence of her driving? = good, conclusive evidence = no. IMO

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    3. Releasing the ATM tape will only verify that she was at the Amherst ATM on that day, at that time. It won't verify anything else. Unless it shows injuries to her face or another person with her, but those two items also can't point to a specific person who hit her or why another person was with her. It doesn't tell us anything about where she was before and after the ATM or what she did.

      Lance and Tim said there was no cell service at the Haverhill accident site. They weren't talking about the entire White Mountain area. Again, that was an assumption gleaned from a fact. I don't mean to be argumentative, but people really need to distinguish fact from assumption.

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    4. Anonymous @ 10:30 a.m., I agree with you. With cell phones you can't tell from records who was actually talking on that phone, only that a call was placed or received from that phone. Anybody could be the caller, and anybody could answer. It just depends on who was in possession of the phone at a certain time.

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    5. They showed the atm "still pictures" to fred. I would assume if it wasn't maura at the atm, word would have gotten out. Whether from Fred telling John Smith, or Fred suing LE about lying..idk

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    6. "Lance and Tim said there was no cell service at the Haverhill accident site. They weren't talking about the entire White Mountain area."

      Yeah but we're not talking about the whole of the white mountains. We're talking about that specific area where we know she, or the driver for arguments sake, lied to Butch Atwood saying she had placed a phone call to AAA. I am distinguishing the fact that the crash site had no cell service, based on numerous accounts, and I don't think anyone had made the assumption that the whole of the white mountains does not have cell service.

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  5. The cell records are one of the biggest clues in this case. They say it all

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  6. I definitely think this was a pattern with Billy calling Maura's friends when he couldn't get a hold of her that is typically how controlling boyfriends behave. They have to know where their girlfriends are at all times and will call incessantly until they get an answer(I know from experience) but I do find it really strange that Maura would call Billy 20 minutes after telling him she didn't feel like talking unless, she was with Kate at the time and Kate was annoyed that he was calling her now or if it was Kate that had Maura's cell phone and knew that while Billy was calling her phone she could make it look like Maura was calling him back, knowing it would go straight to voicemail. Kate would not have had time to let Maura know that Billy was calling her in between Billy's 2 calls. So either Maura was with her or Kate had Maura's phone.

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    1. I think if Kate had Maura's phone when Maura wasn't around, she would call Maura at her dorm and tell her that Billy was trying to call her on Maura's phone. It's kind of an unwritten rule to not answer somebody else's cell phone, so I think Maura was with Kate.

      Also, I think Maura called Billy on purpose when she knew he was on the phone with Kate to make it look like an attempt to talk to him when she really was avoiding him. She was trying to make it look like she nothing was wrong by making it appear that she was trying to call him.

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    2. Even if Maura hadn't found her phone yet, she could always call Billy on her dorm phone. Kate would have told her that Billy had called her and was trying to call Maura. Maura was in her room packing up, calling various places, printing out emails, etc. Maura could have called from the dorm phone, but chose not to. She was definitely avoiding talking to Billy. However, I think Kate and Maura were together when Billy called Kate and then Maura called Billy, knowing that he was on the phone with Kate.

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  7. Maura probably knew how Billy gets; she knew he would just keep calling. At first her email did not make sense to me, but now I think it could have been a way to appease and calm him down so he would stop calling. It was desperation for sure on Billy's part. Did the police question all this with Billy, Sarah and Kate? Yes it is definitely a possibility that Maura could have been with Kate in her room. If Maura wanted to talk to Billy,the timeline certainly suggest she should have been able to. If Maura and Kate were together, it also suggests that she knew the Maura was leaving.

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    1. Maybe Maura wasn't the one who wrote the email to Rausch.

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    2. I also don't think she wrote that email

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    3. Yes, and adding "stud" appeals to his manly nature, so he'll think everything is ok between them. But it's also an insult when you combine it with the email she left on top of the boxes that Billy sent to Maura, confessing to an affair.

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  8. Considering she packed up her dorm room, she likely was in Kate's room at one point. College students frequently go from room to room visiting.

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  9. Is there anyone out there, in the military now or in the past, answer a simple question.... Billy R states he was "out in the field" doing training exercises on "SUNDAY" Feb 8th? Did Field Artillery at Fort Sill Oklahoma run training on weekends for officers in Charlie Battery? If this is a common occurrence then fine, I would like to hear from people who were in the Army around this time. I thought most military personnel had weekends off? Unless there were punishments or special situations?

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    1. Also, was Billy allowed to leave the base when he wanted? Was he able to go out to a store or movie or anything like that?

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    2. Army officers have a limit to the distance they can travel away from post. Anything after that, you must put in for a pass with your travel information. Yes, officers can leave post to go to the store or movies but I doubt, as a 2LT, if Billy lived on post or if Ft. Sill even had BOQs. After 4 years of spartan life at West Point, most 2LTs are eager to live in apartments off post. Jr. officers frequently have weekend duty where they are "on call". Some training exercises can last a couple of weeks and all of that time is spent in the field doing the training.

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    3. Ok, thanks for the info!

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  10. Do any of these calls still exist?

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  11. Whatever happened to Maura started before her breakdown on Thursday night.
    Maura supposedly spent Saturday with Fred, then out to dinner with Kate and Fred. They went to the liquor store because Maura and Kate were going to a party-supposedly. Fred loans his new car to Maura That doesn't make sense to me. What father gives his college-aged kid his new car after they've been drinking and plan to drink more? Maura decides to take off, drunk, from this "party" to go back to Fred's hotel room. Why not just go back to her dorm room? She crashes his car, then gets out of a ticket or DUI and heads to Fred's hotel in the tow truck.That's very odd. Does Maura know the officer at the scene of the crash?

    Maura either had a room key or the front desk called Fred and he went to get her in the lobby, meaning Fred was awake when she got there. Two calls go out to Billy, but was it Maura who called from Fred's phone or Fred-("she's your girlfriend, talk some sense into her. I'm done with her"). Probably Maura, but that's not been verified. Fred could have made one or both of those calls.

    Did she call Billy and tell him she's afraid to tell Fred about the car? How does Billy react to his drunk girlfriend calling him in the middle of the night after crashing her father's new car? Concerned or angry? How does Fred react? I'm thinking he was mad as hell and verbally blasted Maura. Did he get physical with her? Is Billy concerned about what Fred will do?

    By Monday, Billy is trying to track Maura down, but she is avoiding him. Maura begins to pack up her room, make calls to the condo and Vermont, return the scrubs, emails her professors and goes to the liquor store, ATM and DMV for the accident report papers. Billy's calling Kate because he can't get ahold of Maura. Kate would have to be told by Maura to not take Billy's calls or she would probably answer the call. Kate and Maura are probably together because when Billy is calling Kate, Maura is calling Billy, knowing he is on the phone with Kate and won't answer. She emails Billy that she isn't in the mood to talk(Love ya is not the same as I love you), buying her some time to get things in order. Was "stud" ironic or affectionate?Maura prints out an email from Billy acknowledging that he had an affair, and places it on top of her packed boxes on her bed. Has Fred told her he is forcing her to leave UMass because she keeps getting into trouble in college? Is that why she has packed up her room?

    Then Maura packs up the car, goes to the ATM, DMV and liquor store, still avoiding Bill's calls. He calls all around to try to find out what's going on. She's doing everything to avoid him because she is busy making plans to leave. I think Billy is trying to find out how Fred reacted to Maura's crash. Billy's roommate and the drill sergeant aren't going to get involved in this, as Billy well knows. They would know better than to talk about this.

    Everybody involved is hiding something. I still think fear is the reason. Something is scaring them silent, and for years. They still won't talk as adults. Does Fred have that kind of control over Kate and Sara, even today? I don't think so. Something else is frightening them, even as adults, enough to block any investigation into a friend who disappeared. What could be so important that they have kept silent all of these years? Who has a hold on their silence? I don't think it's Fred-it's bigger than that.
    Feel free to poke holes in my arguments here.




    This party takes place (again, supossedly) in Sara's dorm room, and was standing room only, but a 360 video of the Coolidge dorm rooms on the UMass site shows that there is barely room enough to walk between beds and the desks. Standing room only means about 8-10 max, maybe nore if they are on the beds.

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  12. Did they administer a polygraph to Rausch and his friend..just to see if they were aware of something shady happening? Because something sure is fishy!

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  13. Do we know for sure that Maura was the one who emailed her professors to tell them she was taking off for a week? When was the last time Maura actually seen in MA? I can't believe, after having one accident in MA, she would be drinking and driving again.

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    1. I think the ATM was the last sighting of Maura, meaning she survived the "party" and telling Fred about his car. She was alive on Monday at the time she was at the ATM, which leads me to believe that is was Maura who packed up, left Billy's email on the boxes on her bed, emailed her profs, called the condo and Vermont, etc. Just my guess, though.

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  14. Just to point out, do we really know BR read the email immidiately after MM sent it? Today with smart phones its different, but back then who is sitting behind a computer clicking the refresh button?! If BR was on some exercise mission in a field somewhere he might be calling MM on his mobile but how would he know about the email? Which then would make more sense that he continued calling even after 2pm. Is there info confirming that he read the email right around when MM sent it? Regardless he does seem like a typical controlling bf with this behavior! Also is there anything in the phone records that MM and kate were talking to each other on their mobiles when BR called kates dorm? Which may have led MM to hang up with kate and then proceed to call BR. Would explain the quick response time...

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    1. My guess is that Maura and Kate were communicating on the college dorm room phones at first, leaving the cell phones open to see what Billy was up to, and that they were together when Billy called Kate. Then Maura calls Billy when he's on his cell to Kate, knowing he won't answer.

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  15. AnonymousSeptember 19, 2016 at 2:51 PM
    As I read your comment I realized something that I hadnt focused on before...the email on top of the packed boxes! No one would go through the trouble of printing an email like that then strategically leaving it on top of packed belongings (its a clear statement!) to just return back to the dorm in a weeks time (the email to the professors) to reorganize again...you leave a statement like that for OTHERS to see/find! Meaning that she wasnt planning on returning, and she wanted to leave BR a message, kind of a big middle finger!

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    1. DP, Exactly! I think it was a big FU to Billy, and the rag in the tailpipe was a big FU to Fred.

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    2. Or, it was an FU to Billy, but the rag in the tailpipe was a signal to others that she was outta there and okay? Whichever, I agree about the note and always have thought the rag was a message to someone. That's what she was doing at the trunk at the accident scene.

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    3. totally agree. someone knows exactly what that rag meant/means. little inside joke or w/someone. always wondered if a rag had any significance to WPoint ~ like cadet training, initiation, or Army code.

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    4. putting my bad memory on display here...what color was the rag? if we want to go cryptic/military.... red flag for danger/problem, white flag for surrender. (i know i know, barking up the wrong tree. but that's what *red* herrings are for, right?)

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    5. Who would know about Fred telling Maura to put the rag in the tailpipe? I doubt if she mentioned something so insignificant to anybody, except maybe Billy. Maura wasn't a "car lover," and she hated to drive, so I doubt that she spoke much about her car. It would be too much of a coincidence that another person put a rag in the tailpipe. It was either Maura or Fred, and I think it was Maura, as a signal to Fred. Yes, I think that was the flurry around the trunk. I do think Billy was at Ft. Sill, so again, it comes down to Fred or Maura. My guess is Maura, as an FU to Fred. A literal "shove it up your tailpipe."

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    6. The rag was white. People keep asking about fingerprints on the rag. I don't think you can get fingerprints off of material, but you could possibly get DNA. Fred's DNA would be on the rag because he was the one to give it to Maura, along with a basic car repair kit.

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    7. My theory about the rag is based on statements one of the investigators that participated on the podcast. It sounded to me like he was saying that the rag might have been put there to make it appear that Maura was suicidal at the time of her disappearance. It seemed that the rag was mentioned VERY early in the investigation (the night of her disappearance, when doors were knocked on as well as when her car was first towed), which is interesting because it was shoved way in there (not visible) and pointed out to Fred.

      My takeaway is that whoever harmed Maura purposely put the rag in the tailpipe to get people thinking that she may have been trying to commit suicide. ("Just a runaway who probably committed suicide, no need for a big murder investigation!...") An alternate theory is that Maura *herself* might have been trying to stage the accident to appear as though she were suicidal before running away to start a new life.

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  16. Another oddity.....Fort Sill Standards Bluebook (Soldiers will not talk on cell phones, to include the wearing of an earpiece, while walking in uniform on or off the installation. Conversations on cell phones are conducted at the halt...) it goes on here but how can anyone hear while blowing off artillery; and/or standing "out in the field" making lots of calls back & forth in view of commanding officers? Weird.....I still think someone else had her phone and had to plan to buy time from the crime. Dump Maura and the car far away, along with an bad email, an alleged week off, boxes piled up, internet searches,etc etc etc......

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    1. The crime would have to take place on Monday after she was at the ATM, right? I can't see how that fits. If she wasn't seen after the "party" or after Fred left, I would be more apt to think this was a possibility.

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  17. i was reading this email that she sent to her boyfriend. something is strange. i have one question: did she sent e mail from her account? if she sent it from her email , why she said love you and than she writes her name at the end of the message? if i am sending email to somebody very close to me, i wouldnt write my name.
    sorry ..my english is bad :) hope you understand.

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    1. If the email wasn't from mauras email account, I hope to God LE would have looked into that. But you make a good point, I would never put my name at the end of an email I sent to my boyfriend, of I'm sending it from my own email address.

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    2. Did they have automatic signatures on emails in 2004? You can set up your name to automatically be at the end of every email you send. I do that for business emails. Sometimes, I forget and add my name to personal emails just from habit. OR she wanted to make it clear to everybody that she was not talking to Billy.

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    3. Wow good catch Anon Sept 20 4:47AM. Correct! Only adds to my theory that SOMEONE ELSE wrote the email to Billy. This is Psychology 101. I still say something is fishy that Monday afternoon. And LE won't release that video, because someone out there will prove its NOT Maura at that ATM. This would become public quick and spook the one who may have harmed Maura, stole her ATM card, and the car, and left the State to dump it all far away from themselves. The note to Billy is from someone Billy had a fling with at UMass and who was mad that there was a possibility of the 2 of them getting back together. Jealousy angle.....

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    4. I agree...very good point! I wouldn't say 100% that I wouldn't sign my name, but I probably would only sign it 20% of the time if I were writing a boyfriend. I'd probably add it in occasionally just for variety. It would be interesting to know if she signed off with her name on previous messages to him, ie. was this her typical habit or not?

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    5. I wonder if Billy kept old emails from Maura as a sentimental thing. Would you keep emails from a person you once loved after they disappeared? I know I would, but I'm a woman. I have old emails from boyfriends from 15-20 years ago. Would a man do that? Most men I know have a small box of sentimental things that they keep. I wonder if Billy had one?

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    6. hi, i am anon 4:47..i will add something on my previous note....this fit with one other thing. that situation that maura called bill while he was at the phone with kate..might be that someone else had her phone and thats why person called at that time ...because person know that bill couldnt answer and its like some kind of alibi that maura was calling him ..while who knows where she is at that moment..
      sorry...my english is bad...hope you understand... kira

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    7. AnonymousSeptember 21, 2016 at 4:28 PM, you have been coming up with amazing theories...very interesting ideas that I haven't thought of before. Keep them coming! :)

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  18. On the line of thought above.....

    1. If the note was a big FU to Bill, and...
    2. The rag was a signal to someone...

    Then the wreck in NH was planned or staged. This could explain the red truck lurking around; they were searching/looking in that area for a wreck and girl on foot. It also could give gas to the "Londonberry Ping" that has baffled us. It was her liaison contacting her to confirm. We know Maura checked her phone at 4:30; it could be a check-in to see if whoever was traveling to pick her up left instructions on her voicemail. It also explains--though it's debatable--her rejection of help from Butch Atwood. She had a plan and was sticking to it.

    Just a thought. Or two.

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    1. Maura knew that her car would be found eventually. If the rag was in the tailpipe to Fred as a FU, it could just be a private message to Fred. Also, the accident report papers could be another one, a "well, I did what you said, but YOU fill them out. I'm done." message to Fred. Then the rag in the tail pipe is a "Yes, it was me and FU" message to Fred. Am I overthinking this?

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    2. There's another alternative. It could be that she was trying to get away to meet someone, crashed in Haverhill, and as she was deciding what to do, put the rag in the tailpipe as a signal to Fred as an FU, "See, I'm out of here."

      I think she was still shaken from the crash at Haverhill when Butch Atwood came along, and she told him the lie about AAA so she would have time to think about what do to do next. She didn't know yet that there wasn't cell service there. I think she knew that Butch would call anyway or was afraid that a cop would come along. After she discovered that her cell phone wouldn't work, a car/truck came along and she got a ride with them. She took the liquor because she was meeting someone who she knew would help her straighten out the car crash situation. Things got out of hand with the guy who picked her up, she resisted his advances and he killed her during a struggle? Of course this is all conjecture on my part. Just a theory.

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  19. I think she was pregnant and had been tormented between going through with having the child or terminating the pregnancy, discussing it with her dad (maybe), friends, and Bill. Bill might have sensed that she was leaning towards abortion and was trying to reach her to talk her out of it (or vice versa), she sends the email to him to put him off, meanwhile she either plans the trip to clear her head and not talk to anyone for a while, to disappear and have the baby, or to actually get the abortion. Any family planning clinics in Northern NH or VT?

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  20. Has DNA testing been conducted on the empty coke bottle that she was drinking alcohol out of in the car? That would let you know right there if she was the one drinking and driving in her car. Not ironclad, but just a thought.

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  21. Just a thought but why would she bother calling his phone if she was with Kate, it's not like he would have known she tried to call...if it apparently went straight to voicemail. No beep through while he was on the other line so unless she somehow knew her phone records were going to be checked out I dont see why she would bother doing that

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  22. Everybody is doing great analysis of the information we have at hand, but I hope we can avoid drawing conclusions too soon and potentially overlooking other lines of thought. For example, it is my belief that Maura was LIKELY avoiding Billy, who was POSSIBLY controlling or upsetting her at that time. On the flip side, is it not also possible that Billy was worried about Maura's mental state (depression, car accidents, etc.) or worried that she was involved with someone else? Perhaps he thought her friends knew he cheated and were trying to turn her against him, or he knew something about her friends that we don't (bad influence, etc.). I don't think we yet know enough to rule out these other possibilities.

    By the same token, Fred's behavior has seemed less than straightforward at times. Conjecture is valuable, but I can think of different reasons--not all nefarious--that he might come across that way; as I've said before, maybe he wanted to steer people away from the "Maura committing suicide" angle, thinking police would not look too hard to find her.

    It might seem like we aren't getting anywhere because it's hard to draw conclusions definitively, but I actually think we are making a lot of progress and some new possibilities are coming to light. I just hope we can explore all avenues.

    The thing that I'm most hung up on the moment is the behavior of the friends and their supposed unwillingness to talk. Who or what are they scared of? It really stands out as an important clue. After 12 long years they could implore Maura to come forward but apparently she has not. She doesn't want to come forward? They could tip police off--but they haven't. That makes me believe that she probably isn't alive.

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    1. I agree about conjecture. We're narrowing down the possibilities, and I think we're making progress.

      I think Fred is his own worst enemy. He wasn't giving out valuable information, and was attempting to hide realities about Maura, which was hindering the investigation. He became an adversary with the police, when he should have been trying his best to work with them, even if he did not think they were doing their job properly. The possibility of suicide is something that would catch LE's attention, and they would possibly try to find Maura faster the day after the accident if they thought she was suicidal.

      Yes, what is SO important that friends and family won't talk, even after all of these years? I think it comes from fear of somebody, but not Fred. He doesn't hold that power over Kate and Sara as adults.

      I think Billy was at Fort Sill, because he couldn't get away long enough without a pass to go there by car or plane. So that leaves Fred, Kate and Sara. I think Sara got caught up in this at the "party", and Kate and Maura told her whatever was going on with them that began before the Thursday of Maura's breakdown at work. So that leaves Kate and Maura, both connected to the track team. A nursing student who had the same classes as Maura said that Maura didn't hang out with any of the nursing students, so that puts them out of the picture. Maura didn't hang out with people on her dorm floor, so that let's them out. I think Kate and possibly other track team members hold the key to this, but who is Kate so fearful of that she won't talk to this day? I don't think Fred would have this kind of power over Kate and Sara today, so it's probably somebody/something else.

      But what if we are talking about two different things that combined to make Maura go on the run or want to take a break?
      A) Something happens before Maura's breakdown at work, something she's involved in with Kate and possibly other track team members.
      B) Something happens to Maura at the party, unconnected to A.
      C) A and B combined to cause Maura such stress that she decides to get away for a few days. She has the accident at Haverhill, leading to
      D) Maura's disappearance.
      Thoughts?

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 21, 2016 at 12:18 PM, I like your ideas. I am leaning towards A) or B) or perhaps the idea that Maura was working as an undercover informant. Who tends to be most dangerous to others? Someone trying to cover up a crime like drugs or rape and wants to stay out of jail. Also, money can be a motive for murder. Did Maura owe someone money or did she steal money from someone who hurt her?

      I feel that we know very little about the people who knew her at UMass and the nature of their relationships.

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  23. Why would her phone ping off Londonderry,Nh tower? Seems odd.
    Did someone else have her phone coming up from say Boston area have it. You would think in 04 with the suppose route she took there would have been a closer tower than that.
    I dont think she was driving that car but obviously a girl was? Someone with her phone coming up 93n pinged the tower that was maybe picking the driver up?

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  24. Thats not the point. Thats apples to oranges. Your father is not involved with this case. That is like saying "I know a Catholic Priest.. they wouldnt do anything wrong". What this does point out is that BR worked in deception. These are facts that are being uncovered. These are new potential leads. These are new avenues to consider.

    JR didn't make any claims here. Just offered new info. Sounds like your dad had a great career.. that does not have anything to do with this case.

    Again.. just shocked by the silliness I read here from commentors. "My dads a good guy..so Billy must be one too"... uggg..

    John Wayne Gayce was a nice guy too.

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  25. The point is that PSYOPS is not some sinister MOS. NATO forces use "propoganda" flyers all the time attached to MREs and supplies dumped via cargo plane in hostile areas. This is not some clandestine work of the CIA.

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  26. Here's a question. Not trying to accuse anyone at all, but could a series of calls be used to create an alibi in some kind of way? Like if the person making the calls had arranged for someone to hurt her?

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